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old stone road sign/marker/milestone.

  • 21-05-2017 01:10PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭


    Can anyone explain what this sign means and how old would it be ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Looks like a prototype of the white with black detail markers which are around County Waterford.

    unusual-milestone-in-lismore-co-waterford-ireland-ayj2eh.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    nokiatom wrote: »
    Can anyone explain what this sign means and how old would it be ?

    Looks like a crowsfoot bench mark. You could look at the historic OSi maps online to see if it was there in 1835.

    http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    what would the letters and numbers mean ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭mortimer33


    nokiatom wrote: »
    what would the letters and numbers mean ?

    Looks like a milestone marker to me. Letters indicate places. Numbers are the distance in miles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    It seems the letters BO mean Board of Ordnance. They lasted up till 1855.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    It seems the letters BO mean Board of Ordnance. They lasted up till 1855.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    It's definately a milestone, but I doubt it's Board of Ordnance, more likely the B and O refer to a location (it could be Birr and Offaly for example).

    The Board mainly maintained lands and forts for defence, aIthough they did conduct surveys and produce maps I don't believe they placed milestones with their initials. Milestones usually contained letters/words relating to the parish they were placed in or the starting and end points to be measured or both. There is also writing on top and between the B and O which is difficult to make out.

    Milestones were usually placed every mile between two points mentioned on them with each one showing the respective mile which by the way were based on the old "Irish Mile", which was 1.27 the lenght of the mile we know today.

    OP where is the stone located?

    @Speedsie, I don't see any evidence of a "crow foot" engraving on the milestone either. The marking on top is hard to make out and could vaguely resemble one, but it's pointing towards the sky which would be unusual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    nokiatom wrote: »
    what would the letters and numbers mean ?

    The numbers I assume are miles, furlongs, feet.

    Not sure why they wouldn't use yards instead of feet.

    Or maybe chains!!

    8 furlongs to a mile.
    10 chains to a furlong
    22 yards to a chain

    4 rods/perches/poles to a chain...............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    nokiatom wrote: »

    They are all crows foot benchmarks, not milepost stones which is what the OPs picture is, still not certain that B and O was ever used in that sense on a milestone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    was it a mark to denote height above sea level ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭cml387


    Is it possibly a military marker ? The crows foot on the top could also be the British Military broad arrow symbol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    nokiatom wrote: »
    was it a mark to denote height above sea level ?

    Yes that's what benchmarks were for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    cml387 wrote: »
    Is it possibly a military marker ? The crows foot on the top could also be the British Military broad arrow symbol

    it is near a demolished military barracks. I just found it on a map of 1877


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    nokiatom wrote: »
    it is near a demolished military barracks. I just found it on a map of 1877

    Mystery solved, it isn't a milestone so and the B and O is for Board of Ordnance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    one can see a 2 on it so I reckon that must have been a number in the two hundreds which marked feet above sea level ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    nokiatom wrote: »
    one can see a 2 on it so I reckon that must have been a number in the two hundreds which marked feet above sea level ?

    No, where there are adjacent bench marks, each would likely have been numbered, to avoid confusion.

    There are marked as BSW here: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V2,715386,732128,12,9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭nokiatom


    thanks, I looked at that map but couldn't find any BO's. The photo I took above is not marked on it either........its all confusing to me !! lol


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