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I was think of buying 2015 Toyota Auris 1.33 petrol but how reliable are diesel?

  • 19-05-2017 6:52pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭


    I was thinking of buying a 2015`Toyota Auris 1.33 petrol. But I want know is the Diesel Version 1.4 D4D of the same car as Reliable as the Petrol Version.? Any one here have the Diesel Version 1.4 D4D Toyota Auris the car came out in 2013 .?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    If you were planning on buying a petrol car then what has changed that you now need to consider a diesel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I would get the hybrid if it was going petrol. Nothin wrong with the 1.33 but the hybrid ones are great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,694 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    What mileage do you do?
    Type of driving, city or motorways?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If you were planning on buying a petrol car then what has changed that you now need to consider a diesel?
    some people have told me the Diesel is cheaper to run and a better buy but then there is the question `mark on `reliability ?. with the Diesel car that is what I am trying to find out from people who have the Diesel Toyota Auris.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    I would get the hybrid if it was going petrol. Nothin wrong with the 1.33 but the hybrid ones are great.
    I have been told there the best car on the road the Toyota hybrid . does the Toyota Auris hybrid come in `manual transmission? . I looked at one and it was semi-auto transmission that thing I have always driven a manual car.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    NIMAN wrote: »
    What mileage do you do?
    Type of driving, city or motorways?
    1 drive about 15,000 km to 20,000 km a year and most of my driving would be in a city and on the motorways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The hybrids are all full auto. Piece of cake to drive, don't let that put you off.

    The Diesel engine in the Auris is around for the last 15 years and is very well regarded, it has had some updates through the years to keep it legal, and as with all modern diesels there's always the potential for something to go wrong and bite you in the ass, but the 1.4 D-4D has a good reputation generally.

    Toyota do an extended warranty on the hybrid drivetrain by the way.

    There is no universal right car to get. It'll depend on your budget, mileage, type of driving etc.

    If you're doing a mix of city and motorway, I'd def get the hybrid.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The hybrids are all full auto. Piece of cake to drive, don't let that put you off.

    The Diesel engine in the Auris is around for the last 15 years and is very well regarded, it has had some updates through the years to keep it legal, and as with all modern diesels there's always the potential for something to go wrong and bite you in the ass, but the 1.4 D-4D has a good reputation generally.

    Toyota do an extended warranty on the hybrid drivetrain by the way.

    There is no universal right car to get. It'll depend on your budget, mileage, type of driving etc.

    If you're doing a mix of city and motorway, I'd def get the hybrid.
    I will have to get `test drive in the auto hybrid never driven one . I have 2011 Toyota Auris 1.33 petrol from new. which is now 6 years old and the car has being 100 per cent `reliable never given any trouble in 6 years. I just want to update the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Well the new model 1.33 petrol is the same basic thing mechanically as what you have now so if you like what you have now, you'll like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    You would be mad to buy a diesel. They will be taxed out of existence soon and always have big bills looming. Get the hybrid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    jsd1004 wrote: »
    You would be mad to buy a diesel. They will be taxed out of existence soon and always have big bills looming. Get the hybrid.

    When are they taxing diesels out of existence? Who are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭exaisle


    jsd1004 wrote: »
    You would be mad to buy a diesel. They will be taxed out of existence soon and always have big bills looming.

    Absolute rubbish. On all three counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    When are they taxing diesels out of existence? Who are they?

    LIZARDS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    jsd1004 wrote: »
    You would be mad to buy a diesel. They will be taxed out of existence soon and always have big bills looming. Get the hybrid.
    Diesel Cars will be taxed out of existence soon?:confused: is there something about diesel cars in England at the min?. But I do not think this is the same in Ireland I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The UK is looking at bringing in a diesel scrappage scheme where they want old diesels off the road as they pollute too much. Newer diesels are cleaner in that respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    My wife and I both drive The D4D Auris, mine is 9 years old, hers is newer, it is by far the most economic and reliable motor I have owned, I get 700km on a tank of diesel around town, 900km on longer runs, I am looking for a new(or newer) replacement for mine which is MM automatic, but they don't seem to do the diesel in an auto anymore, my local dealer is recommending I get a hybrid; he seems to have lots of used hybrids in stock! Why is this?
    Are people changing their minds about the hybrid? Or is it the influx of U.K. Imports


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The multimode gearboxes were very troublesome and a lot of people found them infuriating to drive. The hybrid is in a different league. You won't get as good mpg on motorway driving as you do on the diesel, but it should be more economical around town.

    22% of Auris sold last year were hybrid (vs 29% regular petrol)
    That's up from 12% (and 35% regular petrol) in 2015 and 5% (with 22% regular petrol) in 2014.

    They're definitely catching on. They've dropped the price of them over the years too which is helping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    When are they taxing diesels out of existence? Who are they?

    Do a google on diesel cars. Google is great..

    http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/change-is-in-the-air-for-diesel-vehicles-35642964.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Must be true so if the Indo says it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    jsd1004 wrote: »

    As we all know Denis O'Brien is a Lizard


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Bebop wrote: »
    he seems to have lots of used hybrids in stock! Why is this? Are people changing their minds about the hybrid? Or is it the influx of U.K. Imports

    Hybrid are a cracking car, have you taken one for a test drive?

    The only reason there's a good supply of them second hand is because many Irish people seem to be afraid to move away from Diesel, cause someone told them Diesel was better. In town/traffic the hybrid will use very little fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Must be true so if the Indo says it.

    Here is another indo one for you

    http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/goodbye-petrol-and-diesel-leading-economist-predicts-all-vehicles-will-be-powered-by-electricity-by-2025-35737646.html

    Diesel is a dead duck. Petrol is a semi dead duck.

    Not sure will be fully electric by 2025 or not. Grid demand would be huge. I would guess diesel will be still commercial based..maybe diesel hybrid. Definitely Ice's will be banned in cities by 2025. I think smoking in workplaces and driving your smokey vehicle will have the same laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Didn't some expert years ago predict we would be living on the moon by the turn of the 21st century too? I'm sure the Irish will be first to buy land up there too.

    We probably will move away on fossil fuel dependent machinery but not as soon as being floating around the internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    jsd1004 wrote: »
    You would be mad to buy a diesel. They will be taxed out of existence soon and always have big bills looming. Get the hybrid.

    Soon in Uk/Europe means the next 2 or 3 years, you have to remember that here in little ol' backward and arseways Ireland, soon means in 15 years time when ever other country in the modern world has made the move, Ireland will set up a working party made up of fat politicians who wouldn't know one end of a car from the other to 'look into it' and report back to them. That report will then be considered, deemed out of date and a new report commissioned. That report will be debated upon, will probably be the downfall of the sitting government and then be introduced in a half arsed watered down way in 2050 but revoked the following year.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Bebop wrote: »
    My wife and I both drive The D4D Auris, mine is 9 years old, hers is newer, it is by far the most economic and reliable motor I have owned, I get 700km on a tank of diesel around town, 900km on longer runs, I am looking for a new(or newer) replacement for mine which is MM automatic, but they don't seem to do the diesel in an auto anymore, my local dealer is recommending I get a hybrid; he seems to have lots of used hybrids in stock! Why is this?
    Are people changing their minds about the hybrid? Or is it the influx of U.K. Imports
    The Toyota Auris diesel has been reliable car for you to own .that is good to know thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭jsd1004


    Soon in Uk/Europe means the next 2 or 3 years, you have to remember that here in little ol' backward and arseways Ireland, soon means in 15 years time when ever other country in the modern world has made the move, Ireland will set up a working party made up of fat politicians who wouldn't know one end of a car from the other to 'look into it' and report back to them. That report will then be considered, deemed out of date and a new report commissioned. That report will be debated upon, will probably be the downfall of the sitting government and then be introduced in a half arsed watered down way in 2050 but revoked the following year.

    http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/irish-car-dealers-unprepared-for-slump-in-diesels-35809498.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    One thing that article doesn't address is this:
    If the price of diesel cars is affected here by the drop in value of uk diesels, it doesn't mean that petrols will just retain the value they had previously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭sgalvin


    As you're looking at a sensible car you're not planning racing it too hard so a manual gearbox isn't really a necessity.
    Once you go automatic you won't go back.

    The modern smaller diesels depend on their turbo lots. I find you need a huge amount of gear changing to stop the engine bogging down or getting noisy.

    I've driven modern dual clutch diesel automatics and they too do lots of gear changes. Count the number you do driving to work!

    The hybrid automatic combination is incredibly smooth and you loose all of the diesel clatter. It's similar to that on the Prius and that has been very reliable with very few wearing parts.

    If the dealer has lots of used hybrids you should be able to get a nice newish model for small money.

    I have been told there the best car on the road the Toyota hybrid . does the Toyota Auris hybrid come in `manual transmission? . I looked at one and it was semi-auto transmission that thing I have always driven a manual car.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    sgalvin wrote: »
    As you're looking at a sensible car you're not planning racing it too hard so a manual gearbox isn't really a necessity.
    Once you go automatic you won't go back.

    The modern smaller diesels depend on their turbo lots. I find you need a huge amount of gear changing to stop the engine bogging down or getting noisy.

    I've driven modern dual clutch diesel automatics and they too do lots of gear changes. Count the number you do driving to work!

    The hybrid automatic combination is incredibly smooth and you loose all of the diesel clatter. It's similar to that on the Prius and that has been very reliable with very few wearing parts.

    If the dealer has lots of used hybrids you should be able to get a nice newish model for small money.
    I was talking to a friend of mine he just bought. A 2015 Toyota Auris 1.33 petrol car you now have a choice of petrol, diesel, hybrid,
    it is very hard to make up your mind but people are still buying the Toyota Auris 1.33 petrol cars as the are knowing to be very reliable cars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    Hybrid are a cracking car, have you taken one for a test drive?

    The only reason there's a good supply of them second hand is because many Irish people seem to be afraid to move away from Diesel, cause someone told them Diesel was better. In town/traffic the hybrid will use very little fuel.

    Took your advice and went for a test drive in the Auris Hybrid 1.8 ;

    I was surprised by the almost silent power and smooth acceleration, the CVT transmission does not seem change gear like other automatics, it just whooshes along..the clue is in the name I suppose. I have decided to buy one


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Bebop wrote: »
    Took your advice and went for a test drive in the Auris Hybrid 1.8 ;

    I was surprised by the almost silent power and smooth acceleration, the CVT transmission does not seem change gear like other automatics, it just whooshes along..the clue is in the name I suppose. I have decided to buy one
    I am going to have to get a test drive Toyota Auris hybrid soon.


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