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Neighbour to build extension on boundary

  • 17-05-2017 8:16am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    Is there already a good thread on this?

    Neighbour has recently informed us of his intention to ext his semi-d. He has proposed to knock the boundary wall and build his ext to effectively form the new boundary.

    He has assured us that the build will be in such a way as to allow us to build off it should we wish to in the future.

    My issue is that the ext will be right up to (though not past) our side of the boundary rather than to the middle of the boundary as I expected it should be.

    If I refuse this, is building inside the boundary and retaining the existing boundary wall the only other option? Or is there the option to build just to the middle as seems right and fair?

    If I agree, then the ext will also take a couple of inches of my garden along the length of the ext.
    Could this cause me future problems in terms of boundary/title etc should we look to sell?

    Any help appreciated.

    Thanks


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Is there already a good thread on this?

    Neighbour has recently informed us of his intention to ext his semi-d. He has proposed to knock the boundary wall and build his ext to effectively form the new boundary.

    He has assured us that the build will be in such a way as to allow us to build off it should we wish to in the future.

    My issue is that the ext will be right up to (though not past) our side of the boundary rather than to the middle of the boundary as I expected it should be.

    If I refuse this, is building inside the boundary and retaining the existing boundary wall the only other option? Or is there the option to build just to the middle as seems right and fair?

    If I agree, then the ext will also take a couple of inches of my garden along the length of the ext.
    Could this cause me future problems in terms of boundary/title etc should we look to sell?

    Any help appreciated.

    Thanks

    Do you plan to ever extend?
    If you do, and you force them to step inside their boundary, then you will have to do the same thing thus creating a rat run between each house that's a magnet for dirt, vermin, birds etc

    The new wall should be structurally capable of taking 2 stories both sides. Its a common detail and their Engineer should provide you with a letter to confirm this.

    Have they provided you with any drawings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 Jimmythesaint


    kceire wrote: »
    Do you plan to ever extend?
    If you do, and you force them to step inside their boundary, then you will have to do the same thing thus creating a rat run between each house that's a magnet for dirt, vermin, birds etc

    The new wall should be structurally capable of taking 2 stories both sides. Its a common detail and their Engineer should provide you with a letter to confirm this.

    Have they provided you with any drawings?

    Thanks kceire.

    They have provided some basic engineer drawings showing the finished ext from a couple of angles but no detail on structural soundness of the wall that we would potentially build on.

    I would certainly like to have the option to extend but have no immediate plans to do so.

    Based on what you've said I'm taking it that you would suggest suffering the minimal loss of ground for the benefit of having a wall to build off in the future?

    Do you have any info/experience/thoughts on the possible boundary issue that this might create was I to look to sell in the future?

    Thanks


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Thanks kceire.

    They have provided some basic engineer drawings showing the finished ext from a couple of angles but no detail on structural soundness of the wall that we would potentially build on.

    I would certainly like to have the option to extend but have no immediate plans to do so.

    Based on what you've said I'm taking it that you would suggest suffering the minimal loss of ground for the benefit of having a wall to build off in the future?

    Do you have any info/experience/thoughts on the possible boundary issue that this might create was I to look to sell in the future?

    Thanks

    Yes that's what I have done, and am doing currently.
    Boundary is still along the same center line of the wall as it always was. No difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    kceire wrote: »
    Yes that's what I have done, and am doing currently.
    Boundary is still along the same center line of the wall as it always was. No difference.
    OP
    You can't refuse.
    He can get a works order in the district court as per

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/27/section/43/enacted/en/html#part8-chap3

    This topic has been beaten to death here recently so if you have web access search this forum using Google advanced search with the right key words and board ie as domain

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    OP
    You can't refuse.
    He can get a works order in the district court as per

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/27/section/43/enacted/en/html#part8-chap3

    This topic has been beaten to death here recently so if you have web access search this forum using Google advanced search with the right key words and board ie as domain

    Why not? If he wants to build where the boundary wall is he will be encroaching on the neighbours property.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Victorian House


    You should look at getting a party wall agreement drawn up between yourself and the neighbour. These are standard in the UK but are not required in Ireland. Benefit of doing this correctly is that, as noted by kceire, you will gain area for any future construction projects.

    Some things worth considering before you give your blessing:
    • Agreement on exact boundary
    • Water drainage from new roof and maintenance of same
    • Flashing to existing building, especially near your boundary
    • Overhang from roof?
    • Extension finish on your side
    • Sound/Thermal insulation
    • Junction to existing boundary wall details
    • Foundation to extension - cantilever/standard
    • Maintenance of new extension wall on your side
    • Plans for future extensions on your side

    A legal agreement will cost a bit but would put to bed any issues in the future. Any verbal agreements will disappear once a house is sold.


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