Moving into House need Internet

A_Sober_Paddy

Hey,

Looking forward help with regards best internet in Limerick, for price and reliability.

Mainly streaming Netflix and a couple of other paid streaming sites.

Also downloading of games via Steam.

colm_mcm

Is virgin available where you are?

A_Sober_Paddy

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is virgin available where you are?

Think so but I keep hearing bad things.

colm_mcm

You'll hear bad things about eir too, I had a nightmare with Sky.
To be fair to them, they have loads of customers so can't be bad across the board. They have the fastest broadband and usually have good offers for new customers.

Johnboy1951

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Hey,

Looking forward help with regards best internet in Limerick, for price and reliability.

Mainly streaming Netflix and a couple of other paid streaming sites.

Also downloading of games via Steam.

Choose either Virgin cable or eir FTTH if they are available at your location. (that is Fibre to the Home and not a copper line into the home)
If both are available think yourself VERY lucky! It gives you choice.

grimeire

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Choose either Virgin cable or eir FTTH if they are available at your location. (that is Fibre to the Home and not a copper line into the home)
If both are available think yourself VERY lucky! It gives you choice.

isnt FTTH a lot faster than virgin cable?

If thats the case why would there even be choice.

ED E

grimeire wrote: »

isnt FTTH a lot faster than virgin cable?

If thats the case why would there even be choice.

Because 150 is plenty fast in practical use, 240/360 is overkill as are the 300 and 1000Mb FTTH packages.

grimeire

ED E wrote: »

Because 150 is plenty fast in practical use, 240/360 is overkill as are the 300 and 1000Mb FTTH packages.

Ok i get you now.

If it was me i would just get the simply broadband package from vodafone. 100Mb for E25 for 6 months and 45 thereafter.

A_Sober_Paddy

grimeire wrote: »

Ok i get you now.

If it was me i would just get the simply broadband package from vodafone. 100Mb for E25 for 6 months and 45 thereafter.

Download limits?

grimeire

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Download limits?

unlimited!

ED E

grimeire wrote: »

Ok i get you now.

If it was me i would just get the simply broadband package from vodafone. 100Mb for E25 for 6 months and 45 thereafter.

FTTH is minimum 150Mb.

FTTC, that you refer to, is mimium 7Mb. Totally depends on where the house is.

grimeire

ED E wrote: »

FTTH is minimum 150Mb.

FTTC, that you refer to, is mimium 7Mb. Totally depends on where the house is.

i know at least 5 people with it and none have less than 50Mb but it all depends where you are.

ring them and they can test your line.

ItHurtsWhenIP

grimeire wrote: »

i know at least 5 people with it and none have less than 50Mb but it all depends where you are.

ring them and they can test your line.

I know a few dozen people on 12Mbps and 7Mbps profiles ... it is all distance related.

James Bond Junior

Where in Limerick are you? I've sky fibre and get an average of about 45mb.

d93c2inhxfok4y

ED E wrote: »

FTTH is minimum 150Mb.

FTTC, that you refer to, is mimium 7Mb. Totally depends on where the house is.

Hey, can I ask a (probably simple) question on this? Just back to Ireland after a few years and trying to figure it all out.

FTTC is to the 'cabinet', meaning some central hub on the street/area, whereas FTTH is to the 'home', meaning the cable runs directly into your house? Is that correct?

I've just moved into a pretty old cottage in Stoneybatter, so apparently the area is very well-covered, but the house itself is old so I doubt it's had anything fancy done to it cable wise. I checked the address with Virgin (240mb) and Vodafone (100mb) and both said we were eligible, however. Is all that's necessary is for the network to upgrade the area as a whole? If it makes a difference, this is what's in the corner of the front room:



Cheers for any help, just asking as I'm in a similar position to the OP and you seem to know the semantics!

The Cush

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

FTTC is to the 'cabinet', meaning some central hub on the street/area, whereas FTTH is to the 'home', meaning the cable runs directly into your house? Is that correct?

Yes, FTTC is fibre to a cabinet in the street or local exchange, up to 100mb within 300m of the cab, copper to the home, distance limited to 2km, speed decreases with distance, 7 down/1 up at 2km.

FTTH is fibre direct to your home, 20km run before amplification, up to 1GB available to all connections.

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

I checked the address with Virgin (240mb) and Vodafone (100mb) and both said we were eligible, however. Is all that's necessary is for the network to upgrade the area as a whole? If it makes a difference, this is what's in the corner of the front room

That's a Virgin Media cable connection for TV/Broadband/Phone. Regarding Vodafone, their service is up to 100mb FTTC but depending on your distance from the cab the actual speed could be much lower.

d93c2inhxfok4y

The Cush wrote: »

FTTH is fibre direct to your home, 20km run before amplification, up to 1GB available to all connections.

Great, thanks a lot for clarifying. Any idea how to check if the house has this? Like, I'm not really sure if those Virgin Media cables mean we have the necessary cables in the house and it's just a case of picking a provider who does FTTH, or we'd need to get something new installed.

Johnboy1951

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

Great, thanks a lot for clarifying. Any idea how to check if the house has this? Like, I'm not really sure if those Virgin Media cables mean we have the necessary cables in the house and it's just a case of picking a provider who does FTTH, or we'd need to get something new installed.

You have one provider's cable in your house - Virgin Media.

As 'The Cush' posted you can get the different services from them through that cable.

The Cush

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

Any idea how to check if the house has this?

Two companies are rolling out a wholesale fibre network open-eir and SIRO, early days yet. They don't sell direct to the public but make the network available to retailers such as eir, Vodafone, digiweb etc.

Open-eir - http://fibrerollout.ie/eircode-lookup/
SIRO - http://siro.ie/roll-out/#map

Is your property on a yellow line (planned routes) on this open-eir map - http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

What does the Dept of Communication's NBP intervention map indicate for your property - http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

Like, I'm not really sure if those Virgin Media cables mean we have the necessary cables in the house and it's just a case of picking a provider who does FTTH, or we'd need to get something new installed.

Virgin Media use their own co-ax cable network to the premises for hi speed broadband/cable TV/telephone, not FTTH. A very good alternative if FTTH isn't available at your location yet.

d93c2inhxfok4y

The Cush wrote: »

Is your property on a yellow line (planned routes) on this open-eir map - http://fibrerollout.ie/where-and-when/

On that map, I'm within 150m of the light green 'CAB1_008 Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live' dot. It's in Stoneybatter, D7. On the Dept of Communication's NBP map I'm in an all blue area.

The Cush wrote: »

Virgin Media use their own co-ax cable network to the premises for hi speed broadband/cable TV/telephone, not FTTH. A very good alternative if FTTH isn't available at your location yet.

Thanks a lot for that, good to know.

So I'm guess that the fibrerollout.ie map means I'm eligible for fibre to that very nearby cabinet, then copper to my home - but I'm not sure if I can get fibre to my home, or if that requires any special cableing and such beyond the Virgin cables that are already there.

To be honest I don't really care about TV, would just love a decent value 100mbs+ internet connection, that would do everything I'd need.

Thanks a lot for the replies to this, really really appreciate it! The broadband in Belgium was pretty woeful/expensive, so this is another pretty exciting aspect to coming home.

The Cush

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

On that map, I'm within 150m of the light green 'CAB1_008 Fibre Broadband Cabinet is Live' dot. It's in Stoneybatter, D7. On the Dept of Communication's NBP map I'm in an all blue area.

So I'm guess that the fibrerollout.ie map means I'm eligible for fibre to that very nearby cabinet, then copper to my home - but I'm not sure if I can get fibre to my home, or if that requires any special cableing and such beyond the Virgin cables that are already there.

Within 150m of a live cab probably means you may not be getting FTTH until after the rural rollout is completed. If your line length is that close to the cab your speed should be close to 100 Mbps, of course that depends what route the line actually takes to your home.

Under the NBP only those houses receiving less than 30 Mbps are being included for FTTH rollout.

ED E

Chances are your options are:

90Mb VDSL from Eir, Magnet, Vodafone, Sky, Pure
OR
240Mb OR 30Mb "Cable" from Virgin Media. More likely that its the 240Mb variant.


The price delta between cheap VDSL and Virgins base package is pretty low so the bang per buck ratio is in Virgins favor. They'll also end up connecting you a LOT faster in many cases, so its a good route to go for.

d93c2inhxfok4y

ED E wrote: »

Chances are your options are:

90Mb VDSL from Eir, Magnet, Vodafone, Sky, Pure
OR
240Mb OR 30Mb "Cable" from Virgin Media. More likely that its the 240Mb variant.


The price delta between cheap VDSL and Virgins base package is pretty low so the bang per buck ratio is in Virgins favor. They'll also end up connecting you a LOT faster in many cases, so its a good route to go for.

Went with Virgin in the end, thanks a lot everyone for the good advice and patience. Really appreciated!

RacoonQueen

Zayd Rapid Groin wrote: »

Cheers for any help, just asking as I'm in a similar position to the OP and you seem to know the semantics!

Jeez that looks like the old cablelink box. They used to position it on windowsill like that an' all