Water butt for dishwater

Chuchote

Is there any way of making a water butt for the dishwater that flows out from the sink? The Aldi ones won't work well because they need a higher-up input than is feasible for the waist-high dishwater outlet.

Sleeper12

Chuchote wrote:

Is there any way of making a water butt for the dishwater that flows out from the sink? The Aldi ones won't work well because they need a higher-up input than is feasible for the waist-high dishwater outlet.

I can't really see that working out for you. The dishwasher needs clean water to rinse off the dishes. Also dishwashers use less than a basin of water for the whole wash, so there's not much savings. It would however be more suitable for the washing machine.

BlinkingLights

Unless it's extremely well filtered, you'll likely wreck any machine you connect it to as you'll clog the nozzles in the detergent dispenser or the inlet system.

You would need to put it through a pretty decent filtration system to remove any debris and supply it at sufficient pressure too.

Chuchote

BlinkingLights wrote: »

Unless it's extremely well filtered, you'll likely wreck any machine you connect it to as you'll clog the nozzles in the detergent dispenser or the inlet system.

You would need to put it through a pretty decent filtration system to remove any debris and supply it at sufficient pressure too.

Dishwater, not dishwasher

Water from the dishes that are handwashed, not the water from the dishwasher.

I thought the same about the dishwasher water, but it comes out of a separate, slightly lower outlet.

SOPHIE THE DOG

BlinkingLights wrote: »

Unless it's extremely well filtered, you'll likely wreck any machine you connect it to as you'll clog the nozzles in the detergent dispenser or the inlet system.

You would need to put it through a pretty decent filtration system to remove any debris and supply it at sufficient pressure too.

I think he OP wants to have a water butt collect the discharge from the dishwasher. The only thing I can think of is to partially bury the water butt - unfortunately this in unlikely to be practicable. Maybe if you were able to cope with long length of waste pipe and have a back garden that slopes away from the house.

If you really really wanted to run with this idea:
Mount the dishwasher on the kitchen worktop (rather than under it)?
Move the dishwasher upstairs?

Chuchote

SOPHIE THE DOG wrote: »

I think he OP wants to have a water butt collect the discharge from the dishwasher.

You think wrong, see post above! It's the water from things like pots and pans, and occasional other washes by hand that I'm after. The water from the dishwasher contains different kinds of detergent, which I think are harsher than Fairy Liquid.

The only thing I can think of is to partially bury the water butt - unfortunately this in unlikely to be practicable. Maybe if you were able to cope with long length of waste pipe and have a back garden that slopes away from the house.

If you really really wanted to run with this idea:
Mount the dishwasher on the kitchen worktop (rather than under it)?
Move the dishwasher upstairs?

The problem is this: if I used the slim Aldi rain butt, it would only half-fill, as most of it is above the level of the outlet for the handwashed-dishes water.

I can't place it down below and use without the legs, because then the tap couldn't run into a bucket or waterer.

What I'd really need (I think) is a kind of small, wide, shallow tank that I could use horizontal rather than vertical, so it would accept a decent amount of water, and be mounted on a trestle, with the tap at the bottom - I don't want a lot of dishwater going stagnant.

Riskymove

could you use a re,ovable basin for washing dishes instead and then transfer to butt?

Chuchote

Riskymove wrote: »

could you use a re,ovable basin for washing dishes instead and then transfer to butt?

I could, if I wanted to lean out the window with the basin, or if I wanted to walk the 8m or so around and through two doors and along the yard and so on… But I probably won't, at least any more than I currently go out with the basin and water plants with it.

cletus

Out of curiosity, what would you plan to do with the greywater you store, is it suitable for use in the garden etc? Would there be issues with long term storage if there is food waste etc in it

cruizer101

I think any decent solution is going to involve a pump of some sort.
You could have a low down tank, possibly buried, with a pump thats turns on on demand.
Another option might be drain the water into a small low down holding tank, then use a pump to raise it up to higher tank, I think you can get solar pumps that might work for this, low flow rate but you don't need it that high. This would give you the height you are looking for.

At the end of day you are restricted to the space between about a foot above ground (enough to fit bucket) and the height of drain from sink which isn't much. So the only other solution is is to use a pump in some way.

Chuchote

cletus wrote: »

Out of curiosity, what would you plan to do with the greywater you store, is it suitable for use in the garden etc? Would there be issues with long term storage if there is food waste etc in it

Generally you'd use it fast, not store it. It's grand for the garden.

https://greywateraction.org/contentabout-greywater-reuse/

my3cents

A mate used to have a sink in a basement that was below the level of the mains drains. The solution was a hand operated diaphram pump (ships/yacht bilge pump) which was connected directly to the sink, could just as easily be set up to pump the water into a water butt.

Chuchote

I've abandoned the idea for now. Too complicated!

dathi

https://www.tanks.ie/water-tanks/water-storage-tanks/attic-water-tanks/at-70-attic-water-tank.html#product_tabs_dimensions
use an attic tank as the collection tank cut the 1 1/2 waste pipe and divert it into the tank and then have an overflow pipe coming out fram tank back to the drains
http://offers.kd2.org/en/ie/lidl/pAHO/
use a pump like this in tank to water your plants

Chuchote

dathi wrote: »

https://www.tanks.ie/water-tanks/water-storage-tanks/attic-water-tanks/at-70-attic-water-tank.html#product_tabs_dimensions
use an attic tank as the collection tank cut the 1 1/2 waste pipe and divert it into the tank and then have an overflow pipe coming out fram tank back to the drains
http://offers.kd2.org/en/ie/lidl/pAHO/
use a pump like this in tank to water your plants

I think I'm going to stick with rainwater for now - if I put a rainwater tank on two drainpipes, from the little kitchen extension and from the roof, it should get me plenty - or at least plenty more than I've harvested up to now.

Could add the bathroom drainpipe, but it would get in the way as it comes down between the kitchen door and the garage back door.

my3cents

What rainwater? Not had anything worth while in the last month.

Chuchote

my3cents wrote: »

What rainwater? Not had anything worth while in the last month.

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