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Does this sentence make sense.

  • 06-05-2017 08:29PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭


    "Without being presumptuous, no more gifts for me please"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    *sentence*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    This sentence does


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,698 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    erm...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    sure, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    I won't buy you a gift op....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    it does


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    "Without being presumptuous, no more gifts for me please"

    No. It is a partial sentence but the general sense is there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,698 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    No. It is a partial sentence but the general sense is there.

    what's partial about it?


  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    "Without being presumptuous, no more gifts for me please"

    So how many gifts did you get and why don't you want any more?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    It would if spoken, but its probably grammatically incorrect when written down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    You like forgot the awmmm period at the end dude.

    (Oops, wrong thread.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    lawred2 wrote: »
    what's partial about it?
    It is two clauses without a verb in the second.
    A semicolon instead of a comma would help greatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭deadybai


    that would be an ecumenical matter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    Does the word 'presumptuous' here mean, not assuming or expecting to you guys, that is what I'm hoping it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,036 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Your understanding of "presumptuous" is correct. It's not a "proper" sentence, but it's perfectly understandable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Is that a Kerry accent OP?

    Jaysis I havent a clue what yer sayin' chicken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭messy tessy


    No I don't think it was quite 'right'.

    Please note I do not wish to receive any more gifts. Apologies if that is a little presumptuous on my part.

    Why don't you want any more gifts?! What have you been getting?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Does the word 'presumptuous' here mean, not assuming or expecting to you guys, that is what I'm hoping it does.

    Yes, it does. You expressed this correctly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Academic


    No. It is a partial sentence but the general sense is there.

    There's nothing "partial" about it. It's a complete sentence, syntactically well-formed.

    It does sound like the speaker/writer might not know what the word "presumptuous" means, however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭cml387


    The quotations allow you to be as ungrammatical as you like.
    "Ere, gimmee that bun you 'orrible little man" said the sergeant major menacingly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭uch


    I think the OP is a Gom, who doesn't want more presents, now seriously, c'mon

    21/25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,293 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    koumi wrote:
    This sentence does

    danjo-xx wrote:
    "Without being presumptuous, no more gifts for me please"


    I think there are nine words but no verb. A sentence of such length has to have a verb. That may be the reason it's tricky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭peckerhead


    Srameen is right; the sentence is ungrammatical, but perfectly intelligible.

    The main proposition, "no more gifts for me please" is not a sentence (no verb) but a sentence fragment whose meaning is clear — please don't give me any more gifts. The "please" tag should have a comma in front of it (and a full stop after).

    "Without being presumptuous" is a subordinate clause and the proposition which it necessarily implies here — "I wish you to know that I don't want any more gifts" — is implicit in the elliptical formulation proffered.

    As often happens in spoken discourse.

    Because we don't speak in sentences, a lot of the time.

    See?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    bobbyss wrote: »
    I think there are nine words but no verb. A sentence of such length has to have a verb. That may be the reason it's tricky.

    'Being' is a verb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    'Being' is a verb.

    But, it's not in the main proposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,024 ✭✭✭gifted


    Never mind the sentence....does this thread make sense anymore???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    But, it's not in the main proposition.


    The word 'but' does not require a comma here. In any case, I was replying to another post which made reference to nine words.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,373 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    A semicolon instead of a comma would help greatly.
    A semi-colon has no place in that sentence; a comma is correct.

    A semi-colon has no place in that sentence, as these two sentences can hopefully demonstrate.

    The OP's two clauses are too closely related for a semi-colon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭MyStubbleItches


    gifted wrote: »
    Never mind the sentence....does this thread make sense anymore???

    I'd argue that there should be more threads like this one on AH. We might all learn something. We definitely don't learn anything useful from the vast majority of dim-witted threads here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,783 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    It makes sense. Posters on here were able to understand it.

    Whether it's grammatically perfect or not is a different issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Someone has bought you presents and you don't want them spending any more money on you but you don't want to sound like you presume they were going to.

    If you're writing a novel or something maybe you could phrase it better. If you're just messaging someone on the internet it's fine.

    If you do get more presents you don't want you can send them to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    Thanks for all the replies guys, well nearly all of them:D

    I was mainly interested if my interpretation and use of the word presumptuous in this case was correct.

    The text message I plan on sending would be something like this'
    Hi Mary,
    Without being presumptuous, no more Christmas gifts for me please. Thanking you for all your kind gifts in the past.


    Only a text but I would like it to be gramatically correct though.

    Just want to 'very politely and in an inoffensive way' if that's possible, end these totally disingenuous gift vouchers.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    danjo-xx wrote: »
    Thanks for all the replies guys, well nearly all of them:D

    I was mainly interested if my interpretation and use of the word presumptuous in this case was correct.

    The text message I plan on sending would be something like this'




    Only a text but I would like it to be gramatically correct though.

    Just want to 'very politely and in an inoffensive way' if that's possible, end these totally disingenuous gift vouchers.:)

    Do you mean disingenuous as in not sincere and hypocritical?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,407 ✭✭✭danjo-xx


    Do you mean disingenuous as in not sincere and hypocritical?

    absoutely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Just use text speak...

    Hi Mary, w/o being presumptuous, n more xmas gifts for me pls. Thanking u for all ur kind gifts in d past. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    No more apples in the vending machine please!!


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