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Vespa Et2 Rusted under floor

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  • 03-05-2017 10:21pm
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    Sosurface
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭


    I bought a Vespa et2 03 but there appears to be significant rust/holes in the frame/panel under the footwell/behind the front wheel. Do you think this could be fixed to a suitable level of safety by welding sheet steel to the frame?

    Sorry dunno how to add pics.


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    D3V!L
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    Sosurface wrote: »
    I bought a Vespa et2 03 but there appears to be significant rust/holes in the frame/panel under the footwell/behind the front wheel. Do you think this could be fixed to a suitable level of safety by welding sheet steel to the frame?

    Sorry dunno how to add pics.


    What you're seeing is the body. They don't actually have a frame as such. How bad is the rust and how much did you pay for the scooter ?


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    Sosurface
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    D3V!L wrote: »
    What you're seeing is the body. They don't actually have a frame as such. How bad is the rust and how much did you pay for the scooter ?
    There is a fairly large hole underneath the floor of the bike. There is also box frame visible which seems unaffected, must have been galvanised but the outer shell is pretty much open underneath.
    I payed 500 for the bike, had seen a pic and was told it needed a bit of welding but hadnt seen the extent until it was delivered. Foolish I know but I needed a cheap commute to work.
    Do you reckon it could be saved or is it just scrap?

    Some pics of underside of bike attached. Apologies for poor quality.


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    Wossack
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    if you bought it and the seller said it needs a bit of welding, it likely needs a lot of welding..


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    D3V!L
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    Just looked at the pictures and I doubled checked. The ET2 is built the same as the old PX, just a one piece body.

    Yours looks like scrap to be honest.


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    Sosurface
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭Sosurface


    D3V!L wrote: »
    Just looked at the pictures and I doubled checked. The ET2 is built the same as the old PX, just a one piece body.

    Yours looks like scrap to be honest.

    ****e. No fixing/ patch up can be done at all No?


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    GBX
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    Patching it up could become a bigger job - I know from experience of trying to get a exhaust headers done, that there was only so much could be done before more gaps started to appear because the welds wouldn't hold to the rotten bits.


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    Sosurface
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    Could it be ridden for a while in the meantime, before I buy a new bike?


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    Wheeker
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    Oh dear, that looks pretty bad alright. :( I reckon you need an expert to advise whether it can be made road-worthy by welding or not. It currently looks like the structural integrity is questionable & I wouldn't ride it in its current state.

    FWIW underbody rust can be an issue on most Vespas. Check out my 2006 Vespa GTS 250 & the rust treatment I had to carry-out:

    http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic149482


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    D3V!L
    Registered Users Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    Sosurface wrote: »
    Could it be ridden for a while in the meantime, before I buy a new bike?

    There's a chance it could split in two when you're riding it. At say 50kph that could be fatal. Please dont drive it without getting professional advice on if it can be saved or not.


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    Sosurface
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 229 ✭✭Sosurface


    Ok. Thanks lads. I have a mech engineer/technician coming to have a look over the weekend. No licence yet so wont be ridden yet anyway. Hoping I can save the thing if possible. Cant really afford to scrap and buy again. Fingers crossed.


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    galwaytt
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    Wheeker wrote: »
    Oh dear, that looks pretty bad alright. :( I reckon you need an expert to advise whether it can be made road-worthy by welding or not. It currently looks like the structural integrity is questionable & I wouldn't ride it in its current state.

    FWIW underbody rust can be an issue on most Vespas. Check out my 2006 Vespa GTS 250 & the rust treatment I had to carry-out:

    http://modernvespa.com/forum/topic149482

    Holy crap. I just decided to sell my PX yesterday to get a GTS and it never entered my head that modern Vespa's would be that bad..........maybe I should switch to a T-Max instead...... 😞

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    Wheeker
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    galwaytt wrote: »
    Holy crap. I just decided to sell my PX yesterday to get a GTS and it never entered my head that modern Vespa's would be that bad..........maybe I should switch to a T-Max instead...... 😞

    Well obviously I do love my GTS or I wouldn't have gone to all that trouble! :P Bear in mind mine is 11 years old, is kept outside (under a cover) & has never been regularly cleaned :o

    If you do go for a 2nd-hand GTS make sure you have a good look at the front seams & undercarriage for rust. The only way to be sure is to lift the floorboards & see what internal rust there is. If it is treated early enough it should be fine.


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    Wheeker
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    Wheeker wrote: »
    Well obviously I do love my GTS or I wouldn't have gone to all that trouble! :P Bear in mind mine is 11 years old, is kept outside (under a cover) & has never been regularly cleaned :o

    If you do go for a 2nd-hand GTS make sure you have a good look at the front seams & undercarriage for rust. The only way to be sure is to lift the floorboards & see what internal rust there is. If it is treated early enough it should be fine.

    Just to further add that suggested rust prevention measures are:


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    Goose81
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    Bring it to a welders and ask how much to repair it. Obv wont be a perfect job but it has no nct to pass. might not be as bad as the pics suggest


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    JL7
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    @Sosurface, did you manage to fix the issue? any update on it? right now I am in a same situation, the rust in my vespa might be worse :(


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