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Local needs kildare

  • 02-05-2017 11:19am
    #1
    Lolly01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭


    Hi

    We are looking at a site in Kildare with a view to build a house on it. While we have family in Kildare, they are not within the 5km local needs rule. Is there anyway around this or any exceptions to it??

    Thanks in advance....


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  • #2
    arctictree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Apparently the locals only rule is going to be scrapped:

    https://www.businesspost.ie/politics/locals-rural-housing-rule-will-lifted-wake-flemish-ecj-case-386432

    I don't have an account with the SBP but you get the jist of it from the title.


  • #3
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,312 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-uenEmXkAEieOA.jpg:large


  • #4
    Lolly01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭Lolly01


    Thanks so much, hopefully that's true!!


  • #5
    chillit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭chillit


    if true this could be a double edged sword.

    random development in the countryside is not really a great thing for a number of reasons. At the moment it is the local needs rule that generally prevents mass one-off building in the countryside.

    If they don't create some other sensible rule to restrict or at least organise counryside building then we could go back to the crazy ribbon development of the 60-70s

    Just my 2 cents.


  • #6
    arctictree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭arctictree


    chillit wrote: »
    if true this could be a double edged sword.

    random development in the countryside is not really a great thing for a number of reasons. At the moment it is the local needs rule that generally prevents mass one-off building in the countryside.

    If they don't create some other sensible rule to restrict or at least organise counryside building then we could go back to the crazy ribbon development of the 60-70s

    Just my 2 cents.

    Totally agree with this. I think there still needs to be a 'local need' qualification. But this should not be based solely on where you or your parents were born. It should be based on if you have a need to reside in the locality for your livelihood. From speaking with planners, the problem with this approach is that people will just lie through their teeth!! At least you can't spoof where you or your parents were born. So its the only way they could restrict building.


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  • #7
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 42,312 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    arctictree wrote: »
    Totally agree with this. I think there still needs to be a 'local need' qualification. But this should not be based solely on where you or your parents were born. It should be based on if you have a need to reside in the locality for your livelihood. From speaking with planners, the problem with this approach is that people will just lie through their teeth!! At least you can't spoof where you or your parents were born. So its the only way they could restrict building.

    thats the way the guidelines currently work

    to be honest id be surprised if there is any change to our rural housing guidelines. Its just flexible enough so as not to stop "free movement of people" in that there are considerations made in the guidelines for persons who need to live in a rural locality because of work.

    What they cant do is what they tried to do previously in say restricting rural housing in gaelteach areas to Irish speakers only etc.

    the irish policy has been challenged previously and they were adjusted as a result of this challenge.


  • #8
    jiminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭jiminho


    Has there been any development on this? We could follow the UKs lead and use some of the policies laid out in Paragraph 55 specifically being able to build a house that is “truly outstanding and innovative’ in the green belt. Now, I’ve seen some home designs that have and haven’t been approved planning permission and the ones that have are exceptional. Nevertheless, it would be good to have a small hope of building a dream house in a rural setting. I was born in Dublin so I’m buggered right now


  • #9
    Lolly01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 ✭Lolly01


    jiminho wrote: »
    Has there been any development on this? We could follow the UKs lead and use some of the policies laid out in Paragraph 55 specifically being able to build a house that is “truly outstanding and innovative’ in the green belt. Now, I’ve seen some home designs that have and haven’t been approved planning permission and the ones that have are exceptional. Nevertheless, it would be good to have a small hope of building a dream house in a rural setting. I was born in Dublin so I’m buggered right now

    No we didn't buy end up going down this route...still deciding what to do


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