2011 Honda Civic petrol 1.4 MPG

Kate2293

Hi all,

Looking into getting a 2011-ish Honda Civic but just wondering what kind of fuel consumption I can expect?

I was originally going to go with the 2.2 diesel engine but have heard that the engine isn't great..

So my decision now lies between the 1.4 petrol or the 1.8 petrol. I do need a somewhat economical car, which is why I'm leaning more towards the 1.4 engine. However I'm now hearing there isn't much of a difference in fuel economy and to go with the 1.8....

I'm totally confused now! Is there anyone here with experience with either and can tell me what the realistic fuel consumption is?

Thanking you!

Toyotafanboi

Could you still get the 1.8 in 2011? I've never driven the 1.4 but my 1.8 does 45mpg which is decent IMO.

jca

The 1.4 really struggles in that car it's very underpowered I don't think you'd get mpg anywhere near the 1.8, middle 30's in mpg at best. I don't think the 2.2 diesel gave much trouble in the civic it was more so in the Accord that it gave trouble.

bazz26

The 1.8 is a much nicer engine than the 1.4 and most of the 1.8s tend to be higher spec models too.

Ardennes1944

Also a thumbs up for the 1.8, I get 6l/100kms all day long on my commute.

The 2.2 is not a bad engine, its a very good one in fact! The earlier issues were well sorted by 2011 too.

CiniO

2011 is last year of 8th generation civic.

1.4 is an i-vtec engine (as oppose to 1.4 used in civic until 2009 facelift).
It's a very good engine reliability wise, but provides poor performance (13 sec 0-100km/h comparing to 8.7s on 1.8) - this is horrendous difference.
Fuel economy on 1.4 will be very similar as on 1.8. You might get tiny bit better with 1.4 when driving slowly around the town on short distances. But you'll get worse economy on 1.4 comparing to 1.8 when driving at higher speeds (f.e. motorway).
Tax on 1.4 is €280, comparing to €390 on 1.8.

IMO definitely worth going for 1.8, unless you only drive car in the town and you're not interested in performance whatsoever.


On the other hand I don't know where you heard bad storied about 2.2 i-CTDi.
It's one of the best diesel engines from those times, and is extra reliable.
They don't suffer any trouble with injectors or turbo.
Vast majority don't come with DPF so one big problem less to worry about.
EGR might cause trouble at higher mileages, but it's nothing too difficult or expensive to fix, and normally preventative cleaning every few years keeps you out of trouble.
Also this engine provides even better performance than 1.8 petrol, and better fuel economy, especially on longer runs. Also €280 to tax so cheaper than 1.8 (same as 1.4).

If I were you, I'd choose depending on driving habits.
If you do more than 20k km per year, I'd go for 2.2 diesel.
If I was doing less than 20k km per year or only short distance driving, I'd go for 1.8.

Personally I have 09 civic 2.2 i-CTDi for last 4 years. It's at 230k km at the moment, and everything still working like new.

bazz26

Clutches were known to wear frequently on the 8th Generation 2.2 i-CTDI diesel engine. 9th generation had the upgraded i-DTEC diesel engine which was more reliable in that aspect.

Audioslaven

bazz26 wrote: »

Clutches were known to wear frequently on the 8th Generation 2.2 i-CTDI diesel engine. 9th generation had the upgraded i-DTEC diesel engine which was more reliable in that aspect.

The clutch is the only real issue on the 2,2 I_CTDI engine and some people were mapping them up to 180 or so causing the clutches to give away. I think Honda improved the clutch around 2010/2011 so a 2011 car may have the upgraded clutch or if you were fitting a new one, it is the upgraded one you get.

CiniO

bazz26 wrote: »

Clutches were known to wear frequently on the 8th Generation 2.2 i-CTDI diesel engine. 9th generation had the upgraded i-DTEC diesel engine which was more reliable in that aspect.

2011 would have 315 or 325 model of clutch (newest model) and though not liable to failure like earlier models.
My 2009 has most likely 315 clutch model, and has already lasted 230kkm.
325 would be even better.

Complete new original honda clutch + DMF can be purchased online for €650.

colm_mcm

It's an absolute pig of a job to do though (it is on the saloon anyway)

CiniO

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's an absolute pig of a job to do though (it is on the saloon anyway)

Clutch?
I though there was no diesel saloon available....

Anyway - any job is hard on a civic, due to limited space there under the bonnet and everything being so compact.

colm_mcm

1.8 saloon.

paddydone1

I have owned the 2006 1.8 for the last 11 years not a days bother with, also have owned the 2007 2.0 type r for the last 5 years no problems with that either.

pajosjunkbox

I have a 2006 1.8 civic hatchback about 2 and a half years now. I love it. No problems whatsoever and just reached 200000 km.
Just bought an FRV with same engine as I like them so much. Great cars.

who_ru

Why not get a Toyota Prius - fuel efficiency and a very reliable car.

pajosjunkbox

I second a Prius. Another great option

CiniO

who_ru wrote: »

Why not get a Toyota Prius - fuel efficiency and a very reliable car.

Probably even more reliable than civic, and better fuel efficient than 1.4 or 1.8 petrol.
But not as nice handing, much slower than 1.8, and much worse looking (but I know that depends on personal taste).

pajosjunkbox

2010 onwards Prius not bad looking in fairness.

jca

Ahh stop lads, the Prius is puck ugly especially when the op wants a civic which are a great looking car. Jesus I'd feel like one of the gay guys from modern family driving a Prius.

Kate2293

pajosjunkbox wrote: »

I have a 2006 1.8 civic hatchback about 2 and a half years now. I love it. No problems whatsoever and just reached 200000 km.
Just bought an FRV with same engine as I like them so much. Great cars.

What kind of MPG are you getting on the 06 one??

Kate2293

CiniO wrote: »

Probably even more reliable than civic, and better fuel efficient than 1.4 or 1.8 petrol.
But not as nice handing, much slower than 1.8, and much worse looking (but I know that depends on personal taste).

I had actually considered a Prius but.... they just aren't pretty cars.. 🙈

colm_mcm

Kate2293 wrote: »

What kind of MPG are you getting on the 06 one??

I have one and was averaging around 43mpg, but now that I do a bit of stop-start city commuting as well as some open road it's more like 37.
I have done economy runs where I've got over 50mpg on a journey but tbh that was just to see what I could get.

jca

Are these fill to fill mpg figures or just what the display tells you?

colm_mcm

Those are actual fill to fill for the commuting, which tallys up with the trip computer figure.
Economy run purely from computer. Can't remember what it was, think 53. Posted it here a few years ago.

grogi

Kate2293 wrote: »

I had actually considered a Prius but.... they just aren't pretty cars.. 🙈

They are beautiful - just require taste that can appreciate the true art.

Another advantage of a prius is the automatic gearbox. It might be slower from the line than a 1.8 Civic, but it is a pleasure to overtake in one.

JohnBoy26

CiniO wrote: »

Tax on 1.4 is €280, comparing to €390 on 1.8

Is it not €570?, at least on some variants anyway?

JohnBoy26

jca wrote: »

Ahh stop lads, the Prius is puck ugly especially when the op wants a civic which are a great looking car. Jesus I'd feel like one of the gay guys from modern family driving a Prius.

Not the one from that era, it's a very nice car.

colm_mcm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Is it not €570?, at least on some variants anyway?

Some 3 door models and some with 17" wheels. Most later ones were on the cheaper rate.

Saloon 1.8 were obv on the higher rate regardless.

jca

grogi wrote: »

They are beautiful - just require taste that can appreciate the true art.

Another advantage of a prius is the automatic gearbox. It might be slower from the line than a 1.8 Civic, but it is a pleasure to overtake in one.

The true art? In a Toyota? In a Prius? Lord spare us!!! I've heard it all now...

jca

who_ru wrote: »

Why not get a Toyota Prius - fuel efficiency and a very reliable car.

With the fuel consumption figures the lads are getting I couldn't see the point.

CiniO

colm_mcm wrote: »

I have one and was averaging around 43mpg, but now that I do a bit of stop-start city commuting as well as some open road it's more like 37.
I have done economy runs where I've got over 50mpg on a journey but tbh that was just to see what I could get.

Just to compare with 2.2 diesel.

I'm getting about 48 mpg (5.9 l/100km) on average (bit of small town driving + mostly country roads with some hills) - driving up to 20km distance. It gets tiny bit worse during winter months.

Driving on longer distances (f.e Mayo to Dublin and back) I can average around 55 mpg (5.1 l/100km) provided I drive steadily and gently mostly within speed limits.

Best I got was 71 mpg (4.0 l/100km) on a distance of around 20km (from Galway towards Clifden). However this was test run to try out how efficient I could go so I was treating accelerator pedal as gentle as you possibly could to keep running. I don't think I was exceeding 80km/h and was in 6th nearly all times.

Pure big city driving I'm getting about 39mpg (7.2 l/100km).

Motoway at 120km/h I'm getting about 47 mpg (6.0 l/100km).

Motorway at 200km/h I'm getting 27 mpg (10.5 l/100km).

All measurments made manually full to full, except this economy run Galway towards Clifden as this was based on trip computer. But IMO in my car trip computer is usually spot on.

Kate2293

grogi wrote: »

They are beautiful - just require taste that can appreciate the true art.

Another advantage of a prius is the automatic gearbox. It might be slower from the line than a 1.8 Civic, but it is a pleasure to overtake in one.

Nah they're pretty much just ugly..

JohnBoy26

Kate2293 wrote: »

Nah they're pretty much just ugly..

I fail to see how this is ugly tbh

pajosjunkbox

Must say I don't think it's ugly either. Previous to 2010 they were pretty ugly all right. I'd find it hard to own one of those. But I'd happily take a 2010 one onwards. Not sure about the new model.

This is a nice one! Would it attract higher than 390 tax though because of the 17 inch alloys or is it just based on the Co2 of 155g/km ?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201709269671207?sort=sponsored&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=2010&make=HONDA&quantity-of-doors=5&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&model=CIVIC&fuel-type=Petrol&postcode=bt11aa&ni-only=on&radius=1500&year-from=2009&page=1

colm_mcm

That’s €390 based on the emissions (which are correct for that particular car at 155)