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May day fire jumpin !

  • 30-04-2017 5:34pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭


    Does anyone still jump the animals over the fire on may day in Ireland?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Does anyone still jump the animals over the fire on may day in Ireland?

    I'd say they do that down in Cork or Leitrim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    I'd say they do that down in Cork or Leitrim.

    :)

    Jesus, have to be right careful the animals don't kick the fire and a spark catches the wicker man... twould be a fright to set off the wicker man before tis 'filled' ;):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Does anyone still jump the animals over the fire on may day in Ireland?

    Sure, like they're not mad enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    I'd say they do that down in Cork or Leitrim.
    SHOTS FIRED!!!




    :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    IS TODAY PICK ON LEITRIMERS DAY :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    IS TODAY PICK ON LEITRIMERS DAY :eek:
    Na, that's every day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Farrell wrote: »
    Na, that's every day!

    sure ya draw it on yer selves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    IS TODAY PICK ON LEITRIMERS DAY :eek:

    Are you saying there's more than one person in Leitrim?:eek:




    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Are you saying there's more than one person in Leitrim?:eek:




    ;)

    I reckon there's at least three!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Are you saying there's more than one person in Leitrim?:eek:




    ;)

    I shouldn't be too down on Leitrim... I had me wedding there...

    They're all a bit mad all right, but sure you'll have that :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    I have never heard of that before !!

    Don't think it's a cork thing ! Lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    I have never heard of that before !!

    Don't think it's a cork thing ! Lol

    Galway then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    I reckon there's at least three!

    So who turns off the traffic lights so (heard a good sketch on I radio)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Farrell wrote: »
    So who turns off the traffic lights so (heard a good sketch on I radio)

    They're not even proper traffic lights, they're the ones that change to red instantly if you push the button to cross :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Ahh jeez lads yis are all forgettin yir roots with yer new fangled Droanes and CeeCeeTeeVee's looking after the cattle.:pac: What they need is a bit of fire up the backside.

    Anyway, the reason I asked as someone was yabbering on about it on the wireless as if it was a common enough thing.

    Bit of a text dump but I found this info on May Day (tis in the West BTW)
    MAY DAY IN THE WEST OF IRELAND

    May Day, the first day of the month of May, is one of the quarterly days in the traditional Irish calendar. Each of these quarterly days indicates the start of a new season. Spring is marked by 1 February (St Brigid’s Day), Autumn by 1 August (Lúnasa) and winter by 1 November (Samhain). There were also folk customs associated with the eves of these festivals marking the seasonal transition.

    ‘Gale Days’
    Traditionally on the 1 May and the 1 November, tenant farmers paid their half-yearly rents to landlords – these were known as ‘Gale Days’. People also took stock of their food supply that had to sustain them until the crops could be harvested later in the year.

    May 1st was when many hiring fairs were held; people looking for work came carrying symbols of their skill - a spade, a hay fork, a reaping hook, or a spancel, which said the bearer was an expert milker.

    Some Old Beliefs
    Signs of the weather, the appearance of the sky and of the May moon, the strength and direction of the wind, the amount of rain, were all carefully noted, as indications of the coming summer weather. Rain was expected and welcomed : "A wet and windy May fills the barns with corn and hay." A cold, east wind was a bad sign, while frost meant hard times to come.

    May Eve and May Day was a time to divine the future. Women tried with snails on flour to foretell the man that they would marry.
    "When gorse is out of blossom, kissing's out of fashion".
    Furze (An Aiteann) which is also known as gorse is in flower from February to May.
    This was also a time to study the weather and weather in the month of May would forecast what was expected to follow in the summer.
    ‘A wet May and a dry June makes the farmer whistle a tune’
    ‘A swarm of bees in May is worth a load of hay’
    ‘A wet and windy May fills the barns with corn and hay’
    Between sunset on May Eve and the dawn of May Day, one should stay close to home and never sleep outdoors. If you must be out and about, a piece of iron in the pocket might give some protection, as will a spent cinder from the hearth, or a sprig of mountain ash.
    Many people leave the fairies an offering of food and drink either on their doorstep, or at a fort, lone bush or other fairy dwelling.

    A favorite prank of the “good folk” is to cause people to lose their way by bringing down a mist. One way to protect against this is to wear your coat inside out. This disguise will confuse them and might allow you to escape.

    Care should be taken not to keep anything you find of value on the roadway or anywhere. Best of all, don't pick it up. But, if you wish to be neighbourly, you should place the article on a fence, gate or bush so that the rightful owner can find it again.

    The first water taken from the well on May Day was variously known as 'the top of the well' or 'the luck of the well'. In evil hands this water could do great harm; but in the hands of the rightful owner, it brought luck, protection and healing.

    A child born on May Day has the gift of being able to see the fairies - but it was believed the child would not live a long life. Animals born on this day were also sure to be weaklings.

    If a girl went out into the garden before sunrise on May 1st, she could find out the name of her future spouse by taking up the first snail or slug she finds. This is put on on a plate sprinkled with flour. A cabbage leaf is placed on top and left until after sunrise. Then, according to the superstition, she will find the initials of her lover traced in the flour.

    The call of the cuckoo is ominous - to hear it on your right brings luck; on the left, ill fortune; from a church yard meant a death in the family, and before breakfast, a hungry year.

    A busy time on the land
    May Day was regarded as the symbolic start of a busy season of farm work. People worked in the fields focusing on the care of animals and their movement to different pastures. There was also an emphasis on fishing for example for salmon. It was a busy time for markets and marts in order to sell animals and at this time seasonal labourers were hired. The important job of cutting turf in the bogs also started in earnest around May Day.

    Traditionally on the 1 May and the 1 November, tenant farmers paid their half-yearly rents to landlords – these were known as ‘Gale Days’. People also took stock of their food supply that had to sustain them until the crops could be harvested later in the year.

    Butter
    The first May Day butter, that is, the first butter made from the milk of May Day, was held to be the best of all bases for salves and ointments. And, it was firmly believed that any herb picked at random before sunrise on May Day was a sure cure for warts. Also, if you wanted to keep the rheumatics away for a year, the custom was to eat nettle soup three times during the month, beginning on May 1st.

    May Day was especially associated with butter stealing: the stealing of the butter profit of the home. The cows were safe-guarded through attaching flowers around their heads and sometimes red ribbons or bits of rowan were tied to their tails. This was believed to offer them protection from the malign glance of those with the evil eye. The churn was especially vulnerable at this time so often similar items or iron objects were placed underneath it.

    All those who visited the house at this time were encouraged to take a dash of the churn. They usually accompanied this with a prayer such as ‘God Bless the Work’. Holy water was often sprinkled on the animals, the churn and all objects associated with dairying. May butter was often kept and used in small quantities to add to the churn and dairy items for good luck and protection.

    “People used make the ‘May Eve Churn’ and the butter of that churn was salted and put away for the coming year. Each night and morning before the milk is put in the pans, the woman got a small piece of butter of the ‘May Eve Churn’ and put it in the pan and then put in new milk. The ‘power’ of this butter prevents the milk and cream from being taken by ‘pishogues’ or any other supernatural power.”

    May Flowers
    May Flowers were picked on the evening before May Day and this was often done by children who went garlanding for flowers. Yellow flowers, such as primroses, buttercups and marigolds were especially popular, possibly as they reflected the sun and summer. Furze and ferns were also put around the outside of the home.

    The flowers used varied depending on which area you lived. In central Mayo the most common flower used was Marsh Marigold (Still used in Castlebar), in North Mayo the flowers commonly used were primroses and bluebells, in parts of County Galway Cowslips were used, while in Munster Yellow Iris (Yellow Flag) were mostly used.

    The flowers were placed on the doorsteps of houses and on windowsills. They were believed to offer luck to the house and offer protection from mystical forces - there was a strongly held belief that these were particularly active around the quarterly days. It was believed that the fairies could not enter the home as they could not pass such sweet smelling flowers.

    They were often put on farm animals so as to protect them from being ‘overlooked’ by people with the evil eye, who might through envy, steal the productivity of the animals.

    The tradition of spreading flowers at thresholds was most common in the northern half of Ireland, especially south Ulster. Throughout Ireland, there is a strong tradition of formally showing welcome, through the spreading of rushes.

    Sometimes May flowers were placed in the local well so as protect the water supply and the livelihood of those who used it. The stealing or skimming of water from the well or dew from the fields of a neighbour, by those with evil intentions, was believed to result in a lack of produce achieved by the household or the community. Water or fire was generally never asked for or taken from the home on May Eve or May Day so as to retain the luck of the house. Mayflower water taken from the well on May Day was said to offer protection and cures. This water and May morning dew was believed to be good for the complexion.

    Traditional riddle:
    I wash my face in water that has never rained nor run and dry it in a towel that was never wove on spun. [A face washed in May dew and dried in the open air]
    ‘Never cast a clout until May is out’ is an expression warning of not shedding too many winter layers until the end of the month of May.
    Herbs gathered before sunrise on May Day were believed to have particularly effective curative properties.

    May, the month of Mary
    Since medieval times in Ireland, there has been a strong association with the devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary during the month of May. Much of the traditions associated with May have been incorporated into the Marian processions found throughout the country.
    Children and adults collected flowers for crowning Our Lady in town processions. They also used them to decorate grottoes, shrines and church altars. It was and still is very common to have a home altar either in the kitchen or outside in the farmyard. Sometimes the flowers picked for this altar were made into crosses. The maintenance of these altars and their replenishment with fresh flowers continued on from the 1 May, throughout the month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Ahh jeez lads yis are all forgettin yir roots with yer new fangled Droanes and CeeCeeTeeVee's looking after the cattle.:pac: What they need is a bit of fire up the backside.

    Anyway, the reason I asked as someone was yabbering on about it on the wireless as if it was a common enough thing.

    Bit of a text dump but I found this info on May Day (tis in the West BTW)
    "Throughout Ireland, there is a strong tradition of formally showing welcome, through the spreading of rushes."

    Fcukers have spread enough at this stage :mad:


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