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Dosing

  • 29-04-2017 8:28am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭


    Dosed ewes with noromectin last summer and then with tribex in the Autumn, would it be OK to now use noromectin again, it mainly just lambs that want a dose but might aswell do ewes to. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Dosed ewes with noromectin last summer and then with tribex in the Autumn, would it be OK to now use noromectin again, it mainly just lambs that want a dose but might aswell do ewes to. Thank you.

    It's a bit early for noromectin. Go with the cheapest worm drench you can find for the lambs.
    Ewes should have resistance to worms anyway so shouldn't be as in as much need of a worm dose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭DJ98


    It's a bit early for noromectin. Go with the cheapest worm drench you can find for the lambs.
    Ewes should have resistance to worms anyway so shouldn't be as in as much need of a worm dose.

    Noromectin is the cheapest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Thought zerofen was the cheapest pink stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    DJ98 wrote: »
    Noromectin is the cheapest

    ideally you should be using a white dose this time of year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    White now , yellow in July and clear later in year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    White now , yellow in July and clear later in year.

    Using wormall at the moment, 2c/lamb and thats probably including the cobalt i'm mixing with it, usually use endospec, but it'd be twice the price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Using wormall at the moment, 2c/lamb and thats probably including the cobalt i'm mixing with it, usually use endospec, but it'd be twice the price

    Funny enough, I typed in wormall into Google search to see where I could buy it and up popped your post mentioning it near to this day last year. Same things arise year in year out with sheep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    Who stocks it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭Surfn


    how often do you lads dose lambs, would you do them every 3 weeks or is that to often


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Surfn wrote: »
    how often do you lads dose lambs, would you do them every 3 weeks or is that to often

    We do a wormcount on the lambs now to check for worms, but before we started that we used to dose March lambs at 6, 10 and 14 weeks.
    Even with testing that seems to be around when they need dosing.
    Its a good idea to get a worm count done 10 days after 14 week dose to make sure they're working


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭Surfn


    rangler1 wrote: »
    We do a wormcount on the lambs now to check for worms, but before we started that we used to dose March lambs at 6, 10 and 14 weeks.
    Even with testing that seems to be around when they need dosing.
    Its a good idea to get a worm count done 10 days after 14 week dose to make sure they're working

    it would be around 4 weeks now since i last dosed them, i used duotech. they all seem nice dry round the back end. id say i probably over dosed them abit the 1st time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭The man in red and black


    White now , yellow in July and clear later in year.

    Try to avoid switching classes of wormer so often. It actually encourages multi drug resistance. Worth chatting to your vet about dosing regime and faecal egg counts as many of the protocols have changed in last few years. All about minimizing resistance now as so many farms have multi drug resistance in their worms which normally can never be reversed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Lambman wrote: »
    Thought zerofen was the cheapest pink stuff.


    Does that 'pink' colour fall under the classification of being a 'white' dose for this time of year I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Yea it's a white dose as in active ingredient... I was just explaining that it's a pink colour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Anyone ever use 'Arrest' worm dose?....seems to have a broad range of cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Anyone ever use 'Arrest' worm dose?....seems to have a broad range of cover.

    It's a mix of white and yellow ingredients.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    ganmo wrote: »
    It's a mix of white and yellow ingredients.

    Would it be ok to use it now to dose March born lambs and use it again in July then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Would it be ok to use it now to dose March born lambs and use it again in July then?

    It should be OK, use a completely different product next year, ie an ivermectin.
    Some people prefer to change doses during the year, I prefer to use the same dose all year apart from using the white dose for Nemotadirus at the start of the season.
    White dose still has no resistant stomach worms here so we'd also use it through the season every third year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Thanks as far as I know Arrest covers Nemotadirus


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Thanks as far as I know Arrest covers Nemotadirus

    yea allthe doses work on nemo, white dose is usually the cheapest


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I used arrest about a month ago. Was kinda worried after as it's a combination and going on advice here I should have gone with white dose. Was worried about promoting resistance. So rangler, should I stick with this for the year? Then next year use white dose for first dose and clear for the rest of the year? When do ye first dose sheep? I had to do one yesterday, she was shooting it out of her


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    I used arrest about a month ago. Was kinda worried after as it's a combination and going on advice here I should have gone with white dose. Was worried about promoting resistance. So rangler, should I stick with this for the year? Then next year use white dose for first dose and clear for the rest of the year? When do ye first dose sheep? I had to do one yesterday, she was shooting it out of her

    White dose is the cheapest for first dose and it works but if you don't have a lot of sheep you,re not going to save much, I change product here every year after the first dose and every product is working 100% , that's all I can tell you. every farm is different.
    We had an infection of nemotadirus late in the season once and Levamisole was the dose that year and it didn't cure it, don't know why, maybe there's a resistance in the nemos to levamisole but it was never an issue after, it wouldn't be used in the nemotadirus dose normally.
    Our first dose is given after department of ag issue the nemotadirus warning
    and the lambs are over six weeks old


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