Grass roots or Mycelium?

pedigree 6

As the title says what do ye think these are?
Are they grass roots or mycelium?

GrasstoMilk

pedigree 6 wrote: »

As the title says what do ye think these are?
Are they grass roots or mycelium?

Roots. The more roots a grass plant has the better. It takes up more nutrients and in turn grows more grass

pedigree 6

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Roots. The more roots a grass plant has the better. It takes up more nutrients and in turn grows more grass

Yea agree on the more the better.
But I think they are mycelium.
It's hard to tell from the photo. But I think they're feeding on some bacteria from the spring.
See that green tinge on the soil in some of the photos.
This is the third grazing on that field this year with an equal amount of grass in each grazing (I really need to start/learn grass measuring) with 54 units of N and the last application the fert is still on the ground.
I spread urea on a paddock in the same field and it stopped growth. Knocked it for six and there's none of these roots or mycelium showing in that paddock.
What ever chemical or bacterial growth was going on the urea killed it.
(I have an idea what was going on but I'd rather not say).
But I'm pretty excited about what happened in this field this spring/year and if i can get it to follow in the rest of the fields.

yosemitesam1

I'd say it's roots, the majority of fungi would need a magnifying glass to be seen unless there was a huge amount present (there's very unlikely to be much due to your n use, which has a huge negetive on fungi)

pedigree 6

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

I'd say it's roots, the majority of fungi would need a magnifying glass to be seen unless there was a huge amount present (there's very unlikely to be much due to your n use, which has a huge negetive on fungi)

I'll pm you my thinking and what I did on the matter this evening.

pedigree 6

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I'll pm you my thinking and what I did on the matter this evening.

I sent a private message to yosemitesam. But I think maybe I should post it on the public site too seeing as everything I've learned is through other people relating their thoughts and experiences.
I don't there's any harm in sharing this message yosemitesam?
Anyhoo this is just my thoughts on what happened and what I did.
It's no way an instruction on what other people should do.
(Well that clears me.:D)
So here's the message.

Grass field and possible nitrogen fixing bacteria.

Right I started off by getting 2 ton of calcium lime spread per acre on this field in November.
Then I spread dirty water on it from the milking parlour.
However my feeling is I spread nitrogen forming Cyanobacteria with the water onto it.
Here is a pic of some in a corner near the slurry tank.



However there was also grey water from the washing machine pumped into the slurry tank at this time too. (A bit of work was going on)
The detergent we were using was Persil non bio and when this comes in contact with water it becomes Boron.

Anyway I spread this dirty water on the field and a few weeks after there was a green tinge growing on the surface of the soil and the lime was washed in by the dirty water.

So fast forward to January and this was the field on the 25th of Jan.




I was just after spreading a bag of 27.2.5.5 on the 20th.
This is an old sod sowed 15 years ago too and it never looked this good.

What I'm guessing is that bacteria went out with the dirty water or maybe it was already present in the soil.
I tested the field with my pH tester and it was coming in at 7 pH which would be optimum growing conditions for Cyanobacteria. It has since gone back to 6.5 pH.
Although without proper lab analysis this may not be correct. But the increase in pH would tie in with Boron increasing the pH.
I have since read about that boron can also increase Cyanobacteria or allow it to grow.
Then in the grass plant itself boron seems to be lockkeeper of plants and allows in more calcium and then the other minerals too.

But then i'm back to a dilemma. In studies of radish plants the optimum Calcium to Boron ratio was found to be 500:1. But then I need the total pH of the soil to be 7 pH and that includes the calcium from the lime and the increase from the Boron it all has to equal 7 for the cyanobacteria to be able to work.
(This is all theory of course but it seems to maybe have worked).
If in the future if anything ever came of this obviously it would benefit someone in organics.

But that's pie in the sky for now but I will do a few little trials with boron spray now that I have the calcium lime spread. Too little boron and there will be no difference but too much and it works like Round up on grass. But i'll only be trialling small 50cm squares to see the results. But I may get another pH tester back again to get some handle on what's happening.
It won't be 100% but I can use it as a guide.

Finally back to my mycelium. I'm not sure it is or isn't mycelium but I guess i'll find out in august (if it stays alive) if I have a bumper crop of mushrooms.

Well that's me tapped out.

 

Waffletraktor

I thought you were from Kilteally, but with bree hill in the background...
Thought mycelium was more cotton wooly

pedigree 6

Waffletraktor wrote: »

I thought you were from Kilteally, but with bree hill in the background...
Thought mycelium was more cotton wooly

I told you where I was from before.
I'm not going to say on here where i'm from or else there could be some mad stalker women on the road outside the house.

In the pictures I put up it is kind of cotton woolly.
Here's another picture from the web of mycelium.



I'll know in august anyway if there's a crop of mushrooms.

Waffletraktor

pedigree 6 wrote: »

I told you where I was from before.
I'm not going to say on here where i'm from or else there could be some mad stalker women on the road outside the house.

In the pictures I put up it is kind of cotton woolly.
Here's another picture from the web of mycelium.


I'll know in august anyway if there's a crop of mushrooms.

You won't need to worry about strangers looking in the window from me atleast as honestly forgotten :pac:.
So will you be frying them in the pan or in a pot like stew is the next important question.