Length of construction work

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Hi All
Ive bought a house that has a roughly 56sq meter shed attached to it,
Its already "joined to the house by a utility corridor with a concrete roof Id like to replace.

I would like to apply for permission (will do outline permission first)
and convert the shed into part of the house. (ie large kitchen and dining room with some roof glazing for extra natural light.)

part of this would to be to join the 2 roofs (pretty straight forward hip from the main house to the shed no more than 8 few long at max length both are same height)

Its a single story cottage built circa 1960s, nearest neighbor is around a mile away.
However I would like to do this work myself over time when Im applying for permission is there a max length of time works can be carried out for?

Im a single guy so there are no "family considerations" to think about.
I've bought the house in cash and plan on spending 5 years to bring it up to an incredible finish.

I would like to do almost all the work myself and employ an arch to sign off along the way,
or I could go the opt out route however my understanding is you cant opt out if its over 40sqm is that right?

appreciate the guidance guys and any suggestions.

sydthebeat

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Hi All
Ive bought a house that has a roughly 56sq meter shed attached to it,
Its already "joined to the house by a utility corridor with a concrete roof Id like to replace.

I would like to apply for permission (will do outline permission first)
and convert the shed into part of the house. (ie large kitchen and dining room with some roof glazing for extra natural light.)

part of this would to be to join the 2 roofs (pretty straight forward hip from the main house to the shed no more than 8 few long at max length both are same height)

Its a single story cottage built circa 1960s, nearest neighbor is around a mile away.
However I would like to do this work myself over time when Im applying for permission is there a max length of time works can be carried out for?

Im a single guy so there are no "family considerations" to think about.
I've bought the house in cash and plan on spending 5 years to bring it up to an incredible finish.

I would like to do almost all the work myself and employ an arch to sign off along the way,
or I could go the opt out route however my understanding is you cant opt out if its over 40sqm is that right?

appreciate the guidance guys and any suggestions.

planning permission lasts for 5 years

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What I mean is from the commencement date is there a max length of time you are allowed to do the works.

I know in the application there is a section on proposed length of time ie 3 months etc but if I wanted to stretch it out
would I be in breach? If I put down duration of works 3 years would they look funny at my application?

Gumbo

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What I mean is from the commencement date is there a max length of time you are allowed to do the works.

I know in the application there is a section on proposed length of time ie 3 months etc but if I wanted to stretch it out
would I be in breach? If I put down duration of works 3 years would they look funny at my application?

No, once a valid CN goes in, then the time duration is a guide only. But you are limited. T your planning 5 years. In theory you could start the job, run out of planning and have to apply for retention and permission again to continue!

Metric Tensor

Also - just for your own knowledge - Outline permission is not a correct strategy for you.

Outline planning permission means permission in principle for a vague development. A full (consequent) permission is required afterwards and the clock sometimes starts from the outline date.

When you own the house and are going to carry out the work and want to maximise the time you have to do the work you just want "planning permission". Don't forget to get someone qualified to design and check the structural items too - foundations, concrete works, etc. These can't be checked afterwards because they are covered over during the works.

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cheers definitely a engineer in to check everything photos along the way and certs at the end don't want to leave any mess for future generations!

I didn't know outline and full permission would be tied together seems illogical to me.
All I understood outline permission was something in principal and nothing is guaranteed until full permission is granted. why start the clock then? Im sure a pre planning consultation with some nice tea and jammie dodgers will clear up any concerns I have about what the planning department want to see the countryside look like for the future.

But 5 years would realistically be 3 years too many to complete the job I just used it as an example after the floor and roof works are done the rest is a couple of months of leisurely working in the nice dry inside!

Metric Tensor

In my experience Outline Permission is only used by people trying to sell a site/sites. Outline permission shows that the council will allow some sort of house/development in the location so when the purchaser buys the site they can sort out the nitty gritty themselves whilst buying in the knowledge that some type of nitty gritty will be allowed!

I can see no benefit to it whatsoever in your circumstances.

Dudda

As said above go for planning permission instead of outline permission.
Another point. While the planning permission will expire in 5 years you can continue if you’ve a certain amount complete. I think it’s up to wall plate level you have to have complete before the planning permission expires (you’ll have to double check that). If you’ve the roof on, windows in and outside plastered before 5 years expires so it looks finished which you should get done then you’ll be fine as it doesn’t really matter inside how long it takes you to tile a floor or fit skirting boards and other finishing things that can take a while.

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cheers for that its mostly the roof as the walls are sound just the roof I want to replace in fact joining the two roofs with a hip would look better than the current look as there are two different materials on each!

The finishing that's what I will take my time on I'm a bit of a perfectionist so if it aint perfect first time its getting done again!