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What powers your swing most?

  • 25-04-2017 9:59am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭


    What powers your swing most?

    What powers your swing most? 24 votes

    My hip turn
    0%
    My shoulder turn
    37%
    WombatmanChippingSodburyronnie3585morrgashane1981benny79tbayerspikebishopTexx 9 votes
    My Arms
    37%
    frinkredzerdrogbeaver111Anatomdamesmackieran.3puttMontgolfierdconnolly81 9 votes
    My wrists and hands
    25%
    higstercallaway92BorderGapusername?!Captain_Crashred ears 6 votes
    It's really different for different clubs
    0%


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    My wrists and hands
    Arms followed by hips followed by legs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭ChippingSodbury


    My shoulder turn
    Weetabix...


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    I think it's the big muscles in the back primarily tbh. It's all about the turn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    Legs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I don't know.

    Hard to say about your own swing ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    My wrists and hands
    I just had a quick think about it and this is what i came up with, i didn't google it honest :D

    For maximal power creation with minimal negative stress on the body, the ground must be the first link in the chain of energy transfer. Newton’s third law of motion states that for every force applied by one object onto a second, an equal and opposite force is applied from the second object back onto the first. As such, using the legs to drive forcefully into the ground results in the ground pushing back up into the golfer’s body with an equal magnitude of force. The force the ground transmits into the golfer is known as the ground reaction force (GRF). GRF is then transferred up through the legs and into the pelvis. From the pelvis the force is transferred into the golfer’s core, shoulder complex, arms, and, finally, the golf club and ball. Transmitting this energy from the ground to the ball with the most efficiency is what allows you to create the most power your body will allow.
    This energy moves through what is known as the body’s kinetic chain. The different parts of the body act as a system of chain links, whereby the energy or force generated by one part of the body (or link) can be transferred successively to the next link. The optimal coordination (timing) of these body segments and their movements allows for the efficient transfer of energy and power up through the body, moving from one body segment to the next. Each movement in the sequence builds on the previous segment’s motion and energy. The result of this transfer and summation is what determines club-head speed.

    In general, the upswing phase also known as the backswing, is performed with much less tension and physical stress throughout the body than the remainder of the golf swing. In this phase, balance, proprioception, and joint and muscle mobility are often more important than actual muscle strength. Having sufficient external rotation and retraction of the trail-side shoulder complex (the right shoulder in a right-handed golfer) and abduction, internal rotation, and protraction on the target side (the left shoulder in a right-handed golfer) while also possessing sufficient internal rotation of the trail hip, external rotation of the target hip, and spinal rotation is more important than how strong the big muscle groups are. The problem with many golfers’ fitness programs is a lack of time spent on increasing mobility or flexibility. If a golfer is restricted in his ability to move his body into a desirable position while remaining in balance during the upswing, the remainder of the golf swing is negatively affected regardless of the muscular strength or explosiveness of that athlete.
    Although this phase of the swing uses mostly a golfer’s mobility, some muscles provide a stable base so others can maximize their movements. During the upswing, the golfer must load the quadriceps, gluteus medius, and gluteus maximus in the trail leg and the obliques as the golfer coils toward the top of this phase of the golf swing. When these muscles work efficiently, the latissimus dorsi, infraspinatus, rhomboids, obliques, and multifidi can elongate properly to achieve the correct, full position of the upswing.
    A great deal of time during golf lessons is spent attempting to attain positions in the backswing. Average and even high-level golfers spend very little time on the downswing or follow-through. During fitness training, most golfers do work on developing adequate motion throughout their bodies. However, many golfers may be unable to properly achieve the positions the golf professional wants. When positive changes are not seen, the result is frustration for both players and professionals and may lead to injury and poor performance. When golfers increase their mobility to match the motion the instructor is trying to get them to create during the upswing, more time can be spent learning the downswing, impact, and follow-through phases of the swing.

    Downswing
    The transition from the upswing to the downswing requires great coordination by the athlete and an ability to separate the lower body and pelvis from the upper body. The transition between these two phases of the swing is initiated by the golfer moving the lower body into position to allow for the greatest muscular efficiency. One of the primary objectives is to position the target-side knee over the outside aspect of the target foot. This puts the golfer in proper alignment for the quadriceps muscles to contract and straighten the knee, the gluteus maximus muscle to contract to create hip extension, and the muscles of the hip rotator cuff (piriformis, gluteus medius and minimus, and obturators) to contract to create both lateral stability within the hip and internal rotation of the hip joint, all on the target-side leg. The trail-side leg uses the quadriceps, adductor magnus, hamstrings, gluteus maximus, and gastrocnemius muscles to create knee extension, hip extension, and ankle plantar flexion to help drive the golfer’s weight onto the left side. The activation of the muscles in the legs helps drive the golfer into the ground and position the player so that the arms are able to move into position and create the desired angles of attack.
    In the core, the obliques and psoas major are highly activated, creating a crunchlike position as the golfer’s hips extend and his pelvis tilts in a relatively posterior fashion (the belt buckle starts to point up) while his chest remains over the ball. The target-side latissimus dorsi helps pull the golfer onto his target side while countering the force generated by the pectoralis muscles on both sides of the golfer’s body.

    Follow-Through
    The follow-through movement in the golf swing allows for deceleration of the body, specifically the arms, postimpact. This phase of the golf swing is very taxing because the muscles must work predominantly through eccentric contractions to slow down the body. The golfer’s entire core—obliques, quadratus lumborum, psoas major, and transversus and rectus abdominis—works at maximum power to produce force and decelerate the body. The latissimus dorsi and the muscles that stabilize the shoulder blade to the spine and rib cage (serratus anterior, rhomboids, levator scapulae) as well as the muscles of the rotator cuff (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis) help protect the shoulder joint from approaching its end range of motion under high velocity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    The ground and legs with timing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭Dbu


    red ears wrote: »
    I just had a quick think about it and this is what i came up with, i didn't google it honest :D

    For maximal power creation with minimal negative stress on the body, the ground must be the first link in the chain of energy transfer. Newton’s third law of motion states that for every force applied by one object onto a second, an equal and opposite force is applied from the second object back onto the first. As such, using the legs to drive forcefully into the ground results in the ground pushing back up into the golfer’s body with an equal magnitude of force. The force the ground transmits into the golfer is known as the ground reaction force (GRF). GRF is then transferred up through the legs and into the pelvis. From the pelvis the force is transferred into the golfer’s core, shoulder complex, arms, and, finally, the golf club and ball. Transmitting this energy from the ground to the ball with the most efficiency is what allows you to create the most power your body will allow.
    This energy moves through what is known as the body’s kinetic chain. The different parts of the body act as a system of chain links, whereby the energy or force generated by one part of the body (or link) can be transferred successively to the next link. The optimal coordination (timing) of these body segments and their movements allows for the efficient transfer of energy and power up through the body, moving from one body segment to the next. Each movement in the sequence builds on the previous segment’s motion and energy. The result of this transfer and summation is what determines club-head speed.

    In general, the upswing phase also known as the backswing, is performed with much less tension and physical stress throughout the body than the remainder of the golf swing. In this phase, balance, proprioception, and joint and muscle mobility are often more important than actual muscle strength. Having sufficient external rotation and retraction of the trail-side shoulder complex (the right shoulder in a right-handed golfer) and abduction, internal rotation, and protraction on the target side (the left shoulder in a right-handed golfer) while also possessing sufficient internal rotation of the trail hip, external rotation of the target hip, and spinal rotation is more important than how strong the big muscle groups are. The problem with many golfers’ fitness programs is a lack of time spent on increasing mobility or flexibility. If a golfer is restricted in his ability to move his body into a desirable position while remaining in balance during the upswing, the remainder of the golf swing is negatively affected regardless of the muscular strength or explosiveness of that athlete.
    Although this phase of the swing uses mostly a golfer’s mobility, some muscles provide a stable base so others can maximize their movements. During the upswing, the golfer must load the quadriceps, gluteus medius, and gluteus maximus in the trail leg and the obliques as the golfer coils toward the top of this phase of the golf swing. When these muscles work efficiently, the latissimus dorsi, infraspinatus, rhomboids, obliques, and multifidi can elongate properly to achieve the correct, full position of the upswing.
    A great deal of time during golf lessons is spent attempting to attain positions in the backswing. Average and even high-level golfers spend very little time on the downswing or follow-through. During fitness training, most golfers do work on developing adequate motion throughout their bodies. However, many golfers may be unable to properly achieve the positions the golf professional wants. When positive changes are not seen, the result is frustration for both players and professionals and may lead to injury and poor performance. When golfers increase their mobility to match the motion the instructor is trying to get them to create during the upswing, more time can be spent learning the downswing, impact, and follow-through phases of the swing.

    Downswing
    The transition from the upswing to the downswing requires great coordination by the athlete and an ability to separate the lower body and pelvis from the upper body. The transition between these two phases of the swing is initiated by the golfer moving the lower body into position to allow for the greatest muscular efficiency. One of the primary objectives is to position the target-side knee over the outside aspect of the target foot. This puts the golfer in proper alignment for the quadriceps muscles to contract and straighten the knee, the gluteus maximus muscle to contract to create hip extension, and the muscles of the hip rotator cuff (piriformis, gluteus medius and minimus, and obturators) to contract to create both lateral stability within the hip and internal rotation of the hip joint, all on the target-side leg. The trail-side leg uses the quadriceps, adductor magnus, hamstrings, gluteus maximus, and gastrocnemius muscles to create knee extension, hip extension, and ankle plantar flexion to help drive the golfer’s weight onto the left side. The activation of the muscles in the legs helps drive the golfer into the ground and position the player so that the arms are able to move into position and create the desired angles of attack.
    In the core, the obliques and psoas major are highly activated, creating a crunchlike position as the golfer’s hips extend and his pelvis tilts in a relatively posterior fashion (the belt buckle starts to point up) while his chest remains over the ball. The target-side latissimus dorsi helps pull the golfer onto his target side while countering the force generated by the pectoralis muscles on both sides of the golfer’s body.

    Follow-Through
    The follow-through movement in the golf swing allows for deceleration of the body, specifically the arms, postimpact. This phase of the golf swing is very taxing because the muscles must work predominantly through eccentric contractions to slow down the body. The golfer’s entire core—obliques, quadratus lumborum, psoas major, and transversus and rectus abdominis—works at maximum power to produce force and decelerate the body. The latissimus dorsi and the muscles that stabilize the shoulder blade to the spine and rib cage (serratus anterior, rhomboids, levator scapulae) as well as the muscles of the rotator cuff (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis) help protect the shoulder joint from approaching its end range of motion under high velocity.

    YEP , Thats where I'm going wrong:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Ibuprofen?

    .....at the moment - my hip turn.....I've been focusing on efficiently shofting my weight through the swing and getting my hip round and 'through' the swing......seems to be having as positive impact (no pun intended).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    I would say my core.

    When I hit the ball poorly, when I haven't played for a while, I have a bad habit of swinging with my arms.
    And I usually end up going over the top and slicing.

    I try to make a concious effort after my takeaway to coil my arms and shoulders around my core, thinking about generating 'energy' on my right side.

    I go back as far as is comfortable then during the downswing while trying to keep my right elbow as close to my right hip to keep on plane, to be in the 'slot'.
    FofH-HoganGlassPlane.jpg

    I try to focus delivery of that energy into the ball while attempting* to square the clubface.. I try to imagine the Hogan 5 fundamentals where there is an elastic as per below. I have to conciously keep my arms quiet, then it's down to timing.

    Hogan-ElasticBandTwo.jpg

    * results may vary. Mostly right to left. Sometimes waaaay right ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Putt it there


    An almost dangerous amount of sausages !


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