Digging out stumps...

Nekarsulm

I see a local piece of forestry that was clear felled about two years ago, getting converted back to agri land.
Two Hitachi's are digging out the stumps and leaving them in long rows about eight feet high.

If you buy clear felled land, can you do this without any penalty?
Or is there a lien on the deeds?

accidental forester

I see this going on also. I've querried our local Teagasc rep and he assures me that there have been convictions and prosecutions but I've not seen a single specific report of such.

The law is quite explicit; failing to comply with a replanting order incurs a fine of €5000 for each 30 day period that the failure continues, if convicted of failure to comply with a replanting order, the fine is €2500 per day for as long as the failure continues.

The replanting order is a standard component of the felling licence and transfers with the land.

Once again, I've never seen a case of what you've observed being persued through the courts.

On the other hand, some land owners do choose to remove stumps before replanting. There are some advantages but concerns about soil disturbance, erosion, run-off, etc, (not to mention cost) usually lead to planting between the old stumps.

I'd be interested to hear if the land does go back into normal agri use.

Robeman

accidental forester wrote: »

I see this going on also. I've querried our local Teagasc rep and he assures me that there have been convictions and prosecutions but I've not seen a single specific report of such.

The law is quite explicit; failing to comply with a replanting order incurs a fine of €5000 for each 30 day period that the failure continues, if convicted of failure to comply with a replanting order, the fine is €2500 per day for as long as the failure continues.

The replanting order is a standard component of the felling licence and transfers with the land.

Once again, I've never seen a case of what you've observed being persued through the courts.

On the other hand, some land owners do choose to remove stumps before replanting. There are some advantages but concerns about soil disturbance, erosion, run-off, etc, (not to mention cost) usually lead to planting between the old stumps.

I'd be interested to hear if the land does go back into normal agri use.

Is land substitution not allowed ? My understanding is that if you decide that you want to convert back an acre of woodland back to agricultural use that is fine if you plant some other acre.

fergus1001

Nekarsulm wrote:

I see a local piece of forestry that was clear felled about two years ago, getting converted back to agri land. Two Hitachi's are digging out the stumps and leaving them in long rows about eight feet high.

Where in the country is this going on out of interest ?

fepper

accidental forester wrote: »

I see this going on also. I've querried our local Teagasc rep and he assures me that there have been convictions and prosecutions but I've not seen a single specific report of such.

The law is quite explicit; failing to comply with a replanting order incurs a fine of ?5000 for each 30 day period that the failure continues, if convicted of failure to comply with a replanting order, the fine is ?2500 per day for as long as the failure continues.

The replanting order is a standard component of the felling licence and transfers with the land.

Once again, I've never seen a case of what you've observed being persued through the courts.

On the other hand, some land owners do choose to remove stumps before replanting. There are some advantages but concerns about soil disturbance, erosion, run-off, etc, (not to mention cost) usually lead to planting between the old stumps.

I'd be interested to hear if the land does go back into normal agri use.

Obviously a replanting grant would help