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Question about ID

  • 19-04-2017 10:20am
    #1
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,184 ✭✭✭


    Last Friday I flew DUB->LCY with Cityjet. I arrived, checked in, gave them my luggage, went through security, boarded without any problems. On Sunday I arrived at LCY and went to check in and was told my passport was out of date since February. It was a surprise, dumb of me not to check before I left but I haven't flown since late last year and have had other things on my mind.

    I had my drivers license with me so showed them that and everything was okay but what would have happened if I didn't have my drivers license with me? The lady at check in LCY didn't seem to know the answer and seemed surprised when I told her I had used the passport for ID in Dublin 2 days before hand.

    Were the Dublin staff right to let me fly out on that passport? I'm surprised it wasn't flagged in Dublin tbh.


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  • #2
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,234 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    No I think they should have noticed in DUB, but obviously missed it. ID checks for the UK-IRL aren't that strict due to the common travel area. Unlike Spain for example who require advance passenger information.


  • #3
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,184 ✭✭✭SteM


    Locker10a wrote: »
    No I think they should have noticed in DUB, but obviously missed it. ID checks for the UK-IRL aren't that strict due to the common travel area. Unlike Spain for example who require advance passenger information.

    Yeah, that's what I thought. The check in clerk in Dublin looked bored out of her skull to be honest, didn't ask any of the usual check in questions etc.

    Edit: any idea what would have happened in London if I didn't have my drivers license? Would they have accepted my out of date passport?


  • #4
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,474 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Did you check in at the airport? If so it means that there was two opportunities to check your passport in Dublin, strange for both of them to have been missed. Do they not take your passport details at check in?

    I find at the gate, most of the staff just glance at your passport and throw it back at you.


  • #5
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    SteM wrote: »
    Yeah, that's what thought. The check in clerk in Dublin looked bored out of her skull to be honest, didn't ask any of the usual check in questions etc.

    Edit: any idea what would have happened in London if I didn't have my drivers license? Would they have accepted my out of date passport?

    A number (3/4) years ago I went to the UK with FR, while in the UK my passport was stolen. Arrived for the return flight, explained my situation showing Driver's License, Work ID and a photo of my passport which I had saved to my Gmail account. The FR staff member simply made a phonecall, received clearence from onhigh and let me through.

    Sure there was aways the train to Holyhead and the Ferry :)


  • #6
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,184 ✭✭✭SteM


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Did you check in at the airport? If so it means that there was two opportunities to check your passport in Dublin, strange for both of them to have been missed. Do they not take your passport details at check in?

    I find at the gate, most of the staff just glance at your passport and throw it back at you.

    Yeah, I checked in at the airport. I normally do it at home but I had luggage to check in so decided do it all at the airport.


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  • #7
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,184 ✭✭✭SteM


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Sure there was aways the train to Holyhead and the Ferry :)

    Nope, to old for that ****. :)


  • #8
    markpb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,414 ✭✭✭markpb


    Locker10a wrote: »
    No I think they should have noticed in DUB, but obviously missed it. ID checks for the UK-IRL aren't that strict due to the common travel area. Unlike Spain for example who require advance passenger information.

    My wifes friend recently traveled to and from Spain with a passport that had expired a few days before departure. I was quite surprised that this could happen, especially to Spain.


  • #9
    martinsvi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    SteM wrote: »
    Yeah, that's what I thought. The check in clerk in Dublin looked bored out of her skull to be honest, didn't ask any of the usual check in questions etc.

    Edit: any idea what would have happened in London if I didn't have my drivers license? Would they have accepted my out of date passport?

    well technically they would have to deport you.. to Ireland.. probably on the same flight you were trying to get on to anyway.. :)


  • #10
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    To travel between UK and IE (except with Ryanair) the legal minimum is to prove you are a UK or IE national.

    As such an expired passport is still proof of nationality


  • #11
    john boye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭john boye


    I had to bring my passport on Monday morning for an EI flight to MAN but it wasn't checked at all either at departures, at the gate or on board. I had it closed in my hand but they were only interested in the boarding pass. Strange I thought, I would have thought they'd check something even if it is a CTA flight.


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  • #12
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,234 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    john boye wrote: »
    I had to bring my passport on Monday morning for an EI flight to MAN but it wasn't checked at all either at departures, at the gate or on board. I had it closed in my hand but they were only interested in the boarding pass. Strange I thought, I would have thought they'd check something even if it is a CTA flight.

    Yeah that is odd, I always have my ID checked on flights between the U.K./Ireland.
    Would you have your passport details saved on an EI account? That it would be on their system and linked to you so they know your nationality/hold a valid ID


  • #13
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    john boye wrote: »
    I had to bring my passport on Monday morning for an EI flight to MAN but it wasn't checked at all either at departures, at the gate or on board. I had it closed in my hand but they were only interested in the boarding pass. Strange I thought, I would have thought they'd check something even if it is a CTA flight.

    EI can be a bit lax about this, I get waved through sometimes even going to Europe, that said the gate agent has seen me numerous times before.


  • #14
    john boye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭john boye


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Yeah that is odd, I always have my ID checked on flights between the U.K./Ireland.
    Would you have your passport details saved on an EI account? That it would be on their system and linked to you so they know your nationality/hold a valid ID

    That did occur to me but no, it's not saved. Odd because I normally use my driver's license to the UK and am usually (though not always) asked for it.


  • #15
    Pat Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    To travel between UK and IE (except with Ryanair) the legal minimum is to prove you are a UK or IE national.

    As such an expired passport is still proof of nationality
    Its only proof of Nationality between the dates show on the document, not after the expiry date. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise!


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