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Trembling Poplars

  • 19-04-2017 8:52am
    #1
    80sDiesel
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    Trembling poplars , otherwise known as quaking aspen is he only native aspen in Ireland. I am curious as to why I never see them around. I realise that they can sprout sucklers and the wood isn't that great but the colour of the foliage in Autumn and the noise they make in the wind sound impressive.


    Any thoughts?

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  • #2
    SILVAMAN
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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    Trembling poplars , otherwise known as quaking aspen is he only native aspen in Ireland. I am curious as to why I never see them around. I realise that they can sprout sucklers and the wood isn't that great but the colour of the foliage in Autumn and the noise they make in the wind sound impressive.


    Any thoughts?
    They are a pioneer tree, but not too keen on exposure. They like decent soil. I've transplanted suckers over the years but not great success, I have some large trees growing on a ditch, and they sucker, but they are site demanding. I suspect that local provenances might be required.


  • #3
    80sDiesel
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    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    They are a pioneer tree, but not too keen on exposure. They like decent soil. I've transplanted suckers over the years but not great success, I have some large trees growing on a ditch, and they sucker, but they are site demanding. I suspect that local provenances might be required.

    Thanks.
    What do you mean by 'site demanding'?

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  • #4
    SILVAMAN
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    They won't just grow anywhere-it cannot be too exposed or waterlogged. That's what I've observed with well aspen. I know of 4 aspen that regularly suffered windsnap at 6m. A row of leylandii planted upwind of them stopped that and they are now 15m at least, and flourishing.


  • #5
    80sDiesel
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    SILVAMAN wrote: »
    They won't just grow anywhere-it cannot be too exposed or waterlogged. That's what I've observed with well aspen. I know of 4 aspen that regularly suffered windsnap at 6m. A row of leylandii planted upwind of them stopped that and they are now 15m at least, and flourishing.

    What is the colour like in Autumn?

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  • #6
    SILVAMAN
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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    What is the colour like in Autumn?

    Butter yellow, some red leaves.


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    lazybones32
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    I think matchsticks are made from poplar timber.


  • #8
    greysides
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    80sDiesel wrote: »
    What is the colour like in Autumn?

    I think these are Aspens.


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  • #9
    80sDiesel
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    greysides wrote: »
    I think these are Aspens.


    mQdHKLQl.jpg


    Cheers. They look great!

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  • #10
    80sDiesel
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    Are they many poplars around? I don't know if I haven't noticed them or just that they are uncommon. Planning to create a small forest of them to see how they go.

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  • #11
    greysides
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    There's several types of Poplar, the Aspen being just one. The White Poplar is a nice one.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

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  • #12
    SILVAMAN
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    There's about 30 species of poplar and a slew of inter-specific hybrids.
    Here's the most common in North America, and often thousands of acres all growing from the same rootstock.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populus_tremuloides


  • #13
    80sDiesel
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    30 species but I think there is only 1 native aspen to Ireland.

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  • #14
    SILVAMAN
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    yes


  • #15
    timfromtang
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    greysides wrote: »
    There's several types of Poplar, the Aspen being just one. The White Poplar is a nice one.

    I have sawn some white poplar into planks, we have used them for interior paneling, a nice soft light wood, white sapwood, and warm orange/yellow heart, a bit hairy to work so sharp tools are needed. Much underrated by woodworkers in general i feel.

    It is a profitable species to grow in other countries where it is used for manufacturing vegetable crates.

    Wood for matches I understand is treated with fire retardant, and impregnated with wax "fuel" during the manufacturing process, hence the charred stick that remains, and no ash from matches.

    We have Balsam Poplar, White Poplar, and a few hybrids growing here, one monster White poplar is over 6 meters in circumference now, I am sure it has a rotten heart, and is beginning to decline in the crown so near end of life, but satisfyingly massive.
    tim

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  • #16
    Oldtree
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    I have a line of mature aspen.over 80 years old. The sound they make in s light wind on a hot summer day is just like a gorgeous waterfall

    There are loads of suckers coming up in the adjacent field which.i am pruning for shape, but of late have been attacked by wild goats string bark in winter and a catapillar early in the sspring eating the new leaved. Remains to see how they will do.


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