Ecoboost 1l petrol or 1.6tdci Ford Grand C-Maz

potsy11

Hi, as the subject title states, should I go for 1L petrol ecoboost or the 1.6 tdci diesel?

Concerned that diesel will be unsaleable in a few years or is petrol just as bad?

Have 3 kids under 5 to transport around.

Dublin based so only short distance trips.

All advice us appreciated.

Potsy

bazz26

Don't buy a diesel if you don't have proper use for one. If you're doing mostly short trips then you don't need a diesel car.

Diesels are not going to become unsellable overnight despite the sensationalist claims. They will still have a purpose for people who do a lot of long journeys just like before 2008. Petrols are making a comeback as manufacturers start offering proper alternatives to people who realise that they don't need one.

colm_mcm

There's only €700 between a petrol and diesel on these. The natural reaction would be to say you don't need a diesel, but reselling a car like this with a petrol will be tougher no matter what the anti-diesel lobby will say.
If your driving is all short duaration journies then petrol would be more suitable. Throw a bit of longer distance in and you could still get away with the diesel, even though the petrol would probably be more suited. I'm just concerned about the resale tbh.
I'm not convinced that the 1.0 ecoboost eliminates all the drawbacks of a diesel, it's still a very complex engine and it's a small engine hauling around a big enough car.

grogi

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'm not convinced that the 1.0 ecoboost eliminates all the drawbacks of a diesel, it's still a very complex engine and it's a small engine hauling around a big enough car.

The only problem it does not have is the DPF. The rest - turbocharger, dual mass flywheel, complicated direct injection system - all is there.

Petrol engine generates much less soot and runs smoother, so DMF is less pushed while EGR and turbocharger will not get clogged as fast as in a diesel. However higher exhaust temperature, especially with those highly-efficient engines, puts additional stress on the turbocharger. DPF filters in new diesels are much more robust, will actively burn even during stationary traffic etc - life of 200kkm can be easily expected out of them.

I'd personally prefer the characteristics and silence of the petrol, but diesel has its place too. Euro6 diesels will not be banned and will be easier to shift, especially from first to second owner.

I was in OP's shoes last year and got a diesel...

jsd1004

grogi wrote: »

The only problem it does not have is the DPF. The rest - turbocharger, dual mass flywheel, complicated direct injection system - all is there.

Petrol engine generates much less soot and runs smoother, so DMF is less pushed while EGR and turbocharger will not get clogged as fast as in a diesel. However higher exhaust temperature, especially with those highly-efficient engines, puts additional stress on the turbocharger. DPF filters in new diesels are much more robust, will actively burn even during stationary traffic etc - life of 200kkm can be easily expected out of them.

I'd personally prefer the characteristics and silence of the petrol, but diesel has its place too. Euro6 diesels will not be banned and will be easier to shift, especially from first to second owner.

I was in OP's shoes last year and got a diesel...

Diesel is a big grey area at the moment. Too many people since 08 have realised their diesels were not as economical or good for the environment as they were led to believe. Cycling through town the other day and being hit by plumes of diesel smoke as relatively modern diesels accelerated to pass me.

Leonard Hofstadter

colm_mcm wrote: »

There's only €700 between a petrol and diesel on these. The natural reaction would be to say you don't need a diesel, but reselling a car like this with a petrol will be tougher no matter what the anti-diesel lobby will say.
If your driving is all short duaration journies then petrol would be more suitable. Throw a bit of longer distance in and you could still get away with the diesel, even though the petrol would probably be more suited. I'm just concerned about the resale tbh.
I'm not convinced that the 1.0 ecoboost eliminates all the drawbacks of a diesel, it's still a very complex engine and it's a small engine hauling around a big enough car.

QFT. I hate diesels but if I had the choice, I'd get the diesel as well. They are better suited to slab sided vehicles than petrols like MPVs because of the lower down torque. They will give better fuel economy and will be easier to sell on no matter what the doomsday merchants say. The key thing with diesels is a good drive on a motorway at least once a month (at least an hour long at 120 km/h), that should be enough to keep the DPF happy, even a few shorter drives on any sort of main road going at 80 should be enough for the DPF to burn off any soot should it need to. Try and get a 115 PS version though, I can't imagine the 95 PS version is up to much and even allowing for the diesel torque, a 1.0 125 PS Ecoboost might well have more go than it (I'd still say get the diesel over the 100 PS Ecoboost no matter which horsepower rating it has).