Ford Fiesta 1.4 Flame

enfant terrible

Anyone know much about the 1.4 Fiesta petrols?

Most on donedeal seem to be the 1.2 versions.

One for sale here with low mileage.
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-ford-fiesta-1-4-flame/15241276

Would timing belt need to be done if not done already?

Thanks

colm_mcm

No real point in getting the bigger 1.4 engine as it's not that much more powerful than the 1.2

More popular in the UK than here.

enfant terrible wrote: »

Would timing belt need to be done if not done already?

Yes

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

No real point in getting the bigger 1.4 engine as it's not that much more powerful than the 1.2

More popular in the UK than here.



Yes

Cheers Colm,

Looking for a small engine starter car for girlfriend

Anything to look out for when buying a Fiesta this age?

A 1.2 version here in Limerick but very high mileage
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-fiesta/14793587

Kia Rio be an option?
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-kia-rio-1-4-low-milage/15121277

Micra here
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-micra-2004-with-new-test-june-2018/14781012

But would be worried about timing chain problems, expensive to fix.

colm_mcm

Would you not just get her a Yaris? That said, are you aiming for a particular year for insurance reasons?

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

Would you not just get her a Yaris? That said, are you aiming for a particular year for insurance reasons?

Ya might wait it out for a Yaris to come up

One here
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mint-yaris-for-sale/15053811

Would you be worried about the chain going on a 100k miles Yaris?

Any tell tale signs to look out for?

colm_mcm

Nah, unless it's been neglected it should be fine. You'd hear the rattle off it if it was bad.

colm_mcm

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/daihatsu-sirion-1-0l-gx/13349984

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/daihatsu-sirion-1-0l-gx/13349984

Are the Sirion's reliable Colm?

Have they timing belt or chain?

colm_mcm

They are very good cars IMO. They're related to the Yaris. There are no Daihatsu dealers in Ireland now AFAIK but Subaru did a version of this car called the Justy and parts are the same. There's a JDM Toyota version called the Passo so Toyota dealers could get parts too.

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

They are very good cars IMO. They're related to the Yaris. There are no Daihatsu dealers in Ireland now AFAIK but Subaru did a version of this car called the Justy and parts are the same. There's a JDM Toyota version called the Passo so Toyota dealers could get parts too.

Cheers Colm might go check it out.

colm_mcm

They're nice because they usually have aircon and stuff that you don't normally get on a 1.0 hatch. Engine is 3 cylinder, very similar to 06 onwards Yaris engine.

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

They're nice because they usually have aircon and stuff that you don't normally get on a 1.0 hatch. Engine is 3 cylinder, very similar to 06 onwards Yaris engine.

Parts could be pricey though? Not gonna get them off Micks garage or the likes.

Have to go through Subaru or Toyota?

colm_mcm

You'll still get general maintenance stuff in motor factors, micksgarage etc.
Just saying for dealer specific stuff like an electric window switch or whatever you can use Subaru or Toyota

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

You'll still get general maintenance stuff in motor factors, micksgarage etc.
Just saying for dealer specific stuff like an electric window switch or whatever you can use Subaru or Toyota

Ah got you, cheers Colm appreciate the help.

colm_mcm

There is also a Perodua (Malaysian brand) version too!
This has the Toyota 1.3 engine
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/perodua-myvi-1-3i-2007/15117159

Not sure if insurers would have heard of it though, but that's good value there! (Back bumper needs paint though)

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

There is also a Perodua (Malaysian brand) version too!
This has the Toyota 1.3 engine
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/perodua-myvi-1-3i-2007/15117159

Not sure if insurers would have heard of it though, but that's good value there! (Back bumper needs paint though)

Ya real good value there for 07 and that spec.

Will have to get an insurance quote and see.

enfant terrible

This car showing as
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2006-kia-rio-1-4-low-milage/15121277

Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Purchased by a Dealer on : 31/03/2017
Notified on : 03/04/2017
No Vehicle Registration Certificate issued in the last 3 months

1 previous owner

But looks like a private sale, dodgy?

colm_mcm

Nah, just taken as a trade in to a main dealer and sold off to the trade (or part time tax-free car flipper)

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

Nah, just taken as a trade in to a main dealer and sold off to the trade (or part time tax-free car flipper)

From googling I think the Rio needs timing belt changed at 60k miles so will need to see if that's done.

If it is done do you then have another 60k miles with new belt?

colm_mcm

Yeah as far as I know the 1.4 in those has a belt. Think the one in the Ceed has a chain. Belt could already be done if it's a 1 owner car.

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah as far as I know the 1.4 in those has a belt. Think the one in the Ceed has a chain. Belt could already be done if it's a 1 owner car.

Might call to see this car today
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-ford-fiesta-1-4-flame/15241276

Is 1500 a fair price Colm?

bazz26

I'd look at this one also. It's a higher spec Steel model and a year younger.



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/look-a-bargain-2005-ford-fiesta-with-tax-and-test/14757546

colm_mcm

enfant terrible wrote: »

Might call to see this car today
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2004-ford-fiesta-1-4-flame/15241276

Is 1500 a fair price Colm?

I'd check insurance on a few models before calling.
It's def worth less than a 1.2 model. Seems thereabouts for what it is.

enfant terrible

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd look at this one also. It's a higher spec Steel model and a year younger.




https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/look-a-bargain-2005-ford-fiesta-with-tax-and-test/14757546

Would the high mileage not put you off? 200k versus 88k

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd check insurance on a few models before calling.
It's def worth less than a 1.2 model. Seems thereabouts for what it is.

Will do cheers Colm, is the 1.4 engine as reliable as the 1.2?

bazz26

It's a 12 year old car so 125k miles is going to be average enough for a car of that age. Irish people seem to have an allergic reaction to anything with 6 digits on the clock If it has been serviced regularly and belts changed I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

Low mileage does not automatically equate to better condition. A fair share of low mileage cars may not get regular maintenance or servicing because their owners think they don't need it. Being parked up for extended periods of time is not good for a car as parts can seize and fluids break down. I'd rather a high mileage old car serviced frequently than a similar low mileage one serviced every 2 or 3 years.

enfant terrible

bazz26 wrote: »

It's a 12 year old car so 125k miles is going to be average enough for a car of that age. Irish people seem to have an allergic reaction to anything with 6 digits on the clock If it has been serviced regularly and belts changed I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

Low mileage does not automatically equate to better condition. A fair share of low mileage cars may not get regular maintenance or servicing because their owners think they don't need it. Being parked up for extended periods of time is not good for a car as parts can seize and fluids break down. I'd rather a high mileage old car serviced frequently than a similar low mileage one serviced every 2 or 3 years.

Talked to the guy selling the 1.4, he says it was imported from the North, was bought under a mobility scheme originally(is a manual though?) and timing belt changed, two previous owners.

Should i do a motorcheck considering its an import, in case it was once a write off?

R.O.R

enfant terrible wrote: »

Talked to the guy selling the 1.4, he says it was imported from the North, was bought under a mobility scheme originally(is a manual though?) and timing belt changed, two previous owners.

Should i do a motorcheck considering its an import, in case it was once a write off?

NUI9942

Imported November 15 and no flags to say it was ever a write off. Can't tell much more about it from the check I have access to.

enfant terrible

R.O.R wrote: »

NUI9942

Imported November 15 and no flags to say it was ever a write off. Can't tell much more about it from the check I have access to.

Thanks ROR saved me a few quid

enfant terrible

The 1.4 I was going to see looks like its gone.

Does this seem very cheap for a 2005 ,long NCT, low mileage, timing belt done and sold from a dealer. €1650

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-fiesta-1-4i-16v-ghia-full-nct/14882269

colm_mcm

Just be aware it isn't tested. Maybe it's part of the deal that they'll do it, but it's due and there's also a cancellation fee due on it too (sadly this transfers to any new owner) just in case you end up having to test it yourself.

Seems about right, again being 1.4 it's worth less than a 1.2 would be.

Garage is only in business a few months. Not that you'd be expecting aftrsles on such a cheap car.

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

Just be aware it isn't tested. Maybe it's part of the deal that they'll do it, but it's due and there's also a cancellation fee due on it too (sadly this transfers to any new owner) just in case you end up having to test it yourself.

Seems about right, again being 1.4 it's worth less than a 1.2 would be.

Garage is only in business a few months. Not that you'd be expecting aftrsles on such a cheap car.

Well spotted Colm.

It says on advert NCT till May 2018 so that looks dodgy.

colm_mcm

It's probably on the to-do list

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's probably on the to-do list

Rang guy today said it failed for wheel bearing and bulb, been retested Sunday.

Yaris available in Limerick
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-yaris-sol-5dr-1-0l-fresh-test-cheap-to-tax/15274945

Would high mileage 140k miles be ok with a Yaris?

colm_mcm

You're really at the mercy of how it's been maintained. If it sounds ok it probably is ok.

enfant terrible

colm_mcm wrote: »

You're really at the mercy of how it's been maintained. If it sounds ok it probably is ok.

Cheers Colm

enfant terrible

Colm,

Went to see this Micra yesterday
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-micra-1-0-ltr-06-nct-1-18/15301011

Scrap on the door and the oil was very low when I checked dip stick but girlfriend really liked it.

He will come down to 1800 is that a fair price of a 2006?

Anything I should look out for on the Micra? couldn't hear any rattle off the timing chain.

bazz26

That car has difference shades of paint on various panels - the drivers door and driver's wing are different shades to each other and the rest of the car. Timing chains can stretch on them too. I wouldn't be paying 1800 for that one and that model Micra is nowhere near as good as a Fiesta.

enfant terrible

bazz26 wrote: »

That car has difference shades of paint on various panels - the drivers door and driver's wing are different shades to each other and the rest of the car. Timing chains can stretch on them too. I wouldn't be paying 1800 for that one and that model Micra is nowhere near as good as a Fiesta.

Cheers bazz,

Will try to get her to look at a different car so.

colm_mcm

I posted a nice looking Yaris in bangernomics yesterday.