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Unrecorded damaged cars being imported from uk?

  • 12-04-2017 1:01pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭


    Was talking to someone who works mad hours near a used car dealer ( who deals in a mix of uk and irish cars) was saying that theres often transporters delivering damaged uk cars arriving and always at night. Said that come daylight cars are no where to be seen .
    Assume that it would be hard for a dealer to get away with selling Cat c/d cars as most people would do history check ??

    so could unrecorded damaged cars be imported and sold to unsuspecting buyers ?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Just because they don't leave the crashed cars out doesn't make it dodgy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭goodlad


    Of course they could. As far as im concerned its common practice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,763 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    If someone doesn't do a history check on the car they are buying they are a foolish and only encouraging this.

    There's no official register of Irish wrote off cars so at least with a UK car you can see if there was recorded damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭Car99


    If they're unrecorded they won't be cat anything so a history check will reveal nothing .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    goochy wrote: »

    so could unrecorded damaged cars be imported and sold to unsuspecting buyers ?

    They don't even have to be imported. Plenty of damaged Irish cars are sold on to unsuspecting buyers, we don't have a way to check unlike the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    No law against importing Cat C or D and selling them on. To be honest, any dealer bringing in stock for repair would be nuts to leave these cars on display in the damaged state as to be honest most people see a badly damaged wing as a write off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Skatedude


    this is why i always get an engineers report and a motor check done on any car i buy. Cant understand why people will hand over money without doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭goochy


    but surely a car would be listed as damaged ? how can you have a crashed car that's not listed ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭LawlessBoy


    goochy wrote: »
    but surely a car would be listed as damaged ? how can you have a crashed car that's not listed ?

    single car accident where you dont tell you insurers or police/guards is one scenario i can think of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    I avoided buying a category D car last year. A €35 history check saved me €8000.

    Only when I told the seller I have conducted the report did they admit it.

    They said the bumper and light were damaged.

    I reckon there was chassis damage as well from the description I got.

    I didn't travel to see it though.

    I wonder what poor soul did buy it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Listed by who?

    If I pay to have my car repaired myself and not involve my insurance company then where is it going to be recorded as crashed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭goochy


    these cars arent repaired though , so someone crashes car and then sells it crashed and buys a new car??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    goochy wrote: »
    these cars arent repaired though , so someone crashes car and then sells it crashed and buys a new car??

    Insurance write off. Insurance base repairs on genuine parts fitted at a main dealer so cars can be written off for very little damage. 2nd hand dealers can either repair or replace with spurious parts to make the repair, so much cheaper for them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Insurance write off. Insurance base repairs on genuine parts fitted at a main dealer so cars can be written off for very little damage. 2nd hand dealers can either repair or replace with spurious parts to make the repair, so much cheaper for them.

    Would you buy a category C or D write off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    I know it would undermine those businesses​selling history information, but would it be handy to have a cat C/D thread where people post the information they payed for. I spent money on a check last year and wouldn't have minded others getting the info that saved me money for free.

    I know that's a charter for free riding and others would disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    KC161 wrote: »
    Would you buy a category C or D write off?

    I would, if I was shown of pictures pre repair, or ideally if car was still not repaired, and I could arrange repairs myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    KC161 wrote: »
    Would you buy a category C or D write off?

    Yes if it's fixed properly. Then it's as good as a car, or better, than one hasn't been written off but driven by the an unmechanically sympathetic driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    goochy wrote: »
    Was talking to someone who works mad hours near a used car dealer ( who deals in a mix of uk and irish cars) was saying that theres often transporters delivering damaged uk cars arriving and always at night. Said that come daylight cars are no where to be seen .
    Assume that it would be hard for a dealer to get away with selling Cat c/d cars as most people would do history check ??

    so could unrecorded damaged cars be imported and sold to unsuspecting buyers ?

    Probably arriving at night because the ferries are cheaper at night.

    As others said the garage would hardly leave crashed cars around the garage taking the look off the place.

    They probably can't get the body shop guy to accept them at night otherwise they'd go straight there and no one would be any the wiser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    KC161 wrote: »
    I avoided buying a category D car last year. A €35 history check saved me €8000.

    Only when I told the seller I have conducted the report did they admit it.

    They said the bumper and light were damaged.

    I reckon there was chassis damage as well from the description I got.

    I didn't travel to see it though.

    I wonder what poor soul did buy it.


    A Cat D is cosmetic damage only with zero structural damage. Basically minimal damage easily repairable (such as bumper/wing/headlight).

    You reckoned wrong.

    I would have no issue driving a Cat D car once its repaired to a high standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭DakarVert


    Lots of cars get repaired and buyers are none the wiser... I'd have no issue with buying a Cat C/D but I'd buy it damaged.


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