When there are no rules.............

Seve OB

So another rules question for you folks.

Scotch Foresomes. Both players hit dodgy tee shots and at the very least a provisional is required.

a. both hit 3 off the tee.
b. first player hits 3 off the tee
c. second player hits 3 off the tee
d. players can choose one to hit 3 from the tee
e. none of the above.


answers on a postcard and i'll pick a winner later on

FixdePitchmark

Seve OB wrote: »

So another rules question for you folks.

Scotch Foresomes. Both players hit dodgy tee shots and at the very least a provisional is required.

a. both hit 3 off the tee.
b. first player hits 3 off the tee
c. second player hits 3 off the tee
d. players can choose one to hit 3 from the tee
e. none of the above.


answers on a postcard and i'll pick a winner later on

My Answers.

The players are fairly crap are holding up group behind ?
They shouldn't be using PROv1s
42
They should buy an M1

eoghan104

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

My Answers.

The players are fairly crap are holding up group behind ?
They shouldn't be using PROv1s
42
They should buy an M1

You're first shot is your own in Scotch Foursomes. If you decide to hit 3 off the tee thats up to individually. You can both hit three if both balls are dodgy.

Pretty straight forward or am I missing something?

martinkop

I say (d), you have to nominate 1 player

CMOTDibbler

none of the above

(b) The first player hits the third shot off the tee. It's effectively the second shot, because penalties don't interfere with the order.

Edit: I've changed my mind.

I reckon they can choose, seeing as it's the second (actual) shot and that's when the choice comes in.

Ronney

first player hits 3 off the tee

Player B is up next to play a provo for plater A's 1st Shot followed by Player A playing a provo for B's first Shot.

Now to make it more interesting you find both originals and find they are both unplayable

Can both players return to the tee to play 3rd shots for each others drive...?

Seve OB

should have done a poll ! :rolleyes:

G1032

So Scotch Foursomes is sometimes referred to as Greensomes. Greensomes is not a format not covered by the Rules of Golf.

The Committee may decide to use a form of play that is not covered by the Rules of Golf, such as greensomes or the best-ball of four players or a “scramble”. As these forms of golf are not specifically recognised in the Rules, the Committee must establish the rules of play and conditions that will be specific to these events.

http://www.randa.org/Guidance-on-Running-a-Competition/Rules/2-Conditions-of-Competition/SubRules/4-Format

So I'll go option E, none of the above.

Competition committee decides.

Seve OB

Well, apparently as Scotch Foresomes is not an actual recognised format of the game by the R&A, the technically correct answer would be..........


(Montgomery Brewster anybody?)


what it means is the committee who run the particular tournament can decide whatever they like (within reason of course) and it should it outlined in the relevant tournament rules.


most people believed both players should tee it up a second time for 3 off the tee, but apparently the more popular version seems that only the first player should play the provisional.

billy3sheets

none of the above

Was playing a foursomes practice match recently and hit a horror shot off the tee, ball definitely lost. It resulted in a fair bit of debate about what should happen next, if I or my partner should hit next ball, whether it changed the order of teeing off on the remaining holes etc.

I believe we did the right thing:
- partner hit 3 off the tee, I hit 4th and so on..
- partner teed off on next hole

Well worth clarifying some of these situations for any teams going into foursomes comps like the PP though.

Seve OB

billy3sheets wrote: »

Was playing a foursomes practice match recently and hit a horror shot off the tee, ball definitely lost. It resulted in a fair bit of debate about what should happen next, if I or my partner should hit next ball, whether it changed the order of teeing off on the remaining holes etc.

I believe we did the right thing:
- partner hit 3 off the tee, I hit 4th and so on..
- partner teed off on next hole

Well worth clarifying some of these situations for any teams going into foursomes comps like the PP though.

Yes you were correct for straight Foresomes, my example was Scotch Foresomes though.

As it happens, we were out practising for PP when this came up and although that is straight Foresomes format, we were playing Scotch and duely hit 2 terrible tee shots, lost and gone forever.... till we found them both sitting pretty!!!! haha

billy3sheets

none of the above

Seve OB wrote: »

Yes you were correct for straight Foresomes, my example was Scotch Foresomes though.

As it happens, we were out practising for PP when this came up and although that is straight Foresomes format, we were playing Scotch and duely hit 2 terrible tee shots, lost and gone forever.... till we found them both sitting pretty!!!! haha

Yeah, foursomes of any kind is rarely played by most golfers. So many are not even aware of the different types of foursomes.
I wouldn't claim to be an expert on the unusual scenarios that might arise either.
3 fairly brief rules on Foursomes in the R&A Rules http://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/MainRules/29-Threesomes-and-Foursomes