Purchasing groups

Reggie.

Anyone here in one? What are the pros and cons as some people say they are a great job and others don't like them. How do they work? How do ya join them or find out about them?

Buford T. Justice XIX

Iirc, stanflt is in one and finds it good.

I'd be in something a bit like one, pay a fee every year to join Buyrite which is a sister company of Magenta Direct.

I find it good, can recover the membership fees on vaccines mostly and get a good bit of fencing stuff and general hardware delivered to my door the following day by courier. Stuff is way cheaper than I can get around here so it does add up.

Who2

Around me there's three or four. you need to be in a good one where every man obeys and is on time with payments. There's a fair saving on meal and fertilizer with the local ones,but i wouldn't be running the numbers to justify being in one.

Dunedin

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Iirc, stanflt is in one and finds it good.

I'd be in something a bit like one, pay a fee every year to join Buyrite which is a sister company of Magenta Direct.

I find it good, can recover the membership fees on vaccines mostly and get a good bit of fencing stuff and general hardware delivered to my door the following day by courier. Stuff is way cheaper than I can get around here so it does add up.

How much does it cost to join

whelan2

I am in a small group. The only cost is 5/10 euro to cover the costs of the secretary. Small is fine as we all know each other and no time wasters/non payers in it.

Wildsurfer

In a large group here. €1000 deposit refundable if you decide to leave but not if you leave debts:D. €400 a year to cover admin. You need to commit to it to recoup your investment and to increase the purchasing power of group. One benefit is you won't have salesmen calling once they know your in a group.

Dunedin

Wildsurfer wrote: »

In a large group here. €1000 deposit refundable if you decide to leave but not if you leave debts:D. €400 a year to cover admin. You need to commit to it to recoup your investment and to increase the purchasing power of group. One benefit is you won't have salesmen calling once they know your in a group.

I'm going to push you a little and ask re average prices from your group.

To get the ball rolling, I'm happy to share my own information so here is what I paid for fert this year:

10.10.20: 390e
18.6.12: 350e
24.2.5.10 360e
Urea: 350e

During the winter, I paid 310e ton for bull power nuts.

Would you have like for like prices within your group for the above?

MF290

Dunedin wrote: »

I'm going to push you a little and ask re average prices from your group.

To get the ball rolling, I'm happy to share my own information so here is what I paid for fert this year:

10.10.20: 390e
18.6.12: 350e
24.2.5.10 360e
Urea: 350e

During the winter, I paid 310e ton for bull power nuts.

Would you have like for like prices within your group for the above?

Depends when you bought the fert...

Who2

Dunedin wrote: »

I'm going to push you a little and ask re average prices from your group.

To get the ball rolling, I'm happy to share my own information so here is what I paid for fert this year:

10.10.20: 390e
18.6.12: 350e
24.2.5.10 360e
Urea: 350e

During the winter, I paid 310e ton for bull power nuts.

Would you have like for like prices within your group for the above?

i don't think any of those figures are very competitive, i'm not in any group and was able to achieve those prices and even slightly better.

Wildsurfer

First rule of purchasing club.... You can't talk about purchasing club, its actually in the signed contract! But look you can win and lose on fertilizer as it is such a fluctuating market. We lost last year but are up this year. Fuel prices are excellent, no individual would come near getting the price we are getting. Also we get discounts on hardware, tyre companies etc. Feed is with one company but you are not tied into taking it from that company. Same with milk replacer etc. For example they had a lower spec replacer than I required so I went elsewhere, but I got a better deal from that salesperson as he knew I had option of going with group powder and he had lost a good few customers from the group already.

Dunedin

MF290 wrote: »

Depends when you bought the fert...

11th March

Dunedin

Who2 wrote: »

i don't think any of those figures are very competitive, i'm not in any group and was able to achieve those prices and even slightly better.

Not in a group either. These prices are from local co op and I was asking the guys/girls in the PG to compare their prices to mine.

epfff

Dunedin wrote: »

Not in a group either. These prices are from local co op and I was asking the guys/girls in the PG to compare their prices to mine.

Not in group here
350 urea
250 can
Today delivery Friday
Sorta stay loyal to 2 meal Co as Im of opinion better ingredients make better feed
Can't see why I'm not getting best price as paying customer taking drop off 52 weeks on day that suits hauliers

Meal rep claims they no longer compete for groups because too few have all good payers.

Only groups they want are the ones that have a designated person to collect money and lodge to bank on certain date

mahoney_j

Dunedin wrote: »

I'm going to push you a little and ask re average prices from your group.

To get the ball rolling, I'm happy to share my own information so here is what I paid for fert this year:

10.10.20: 390e
18.6.12: 350e
24.2.5.10 360e
Urea: 350e

During the winter, I paid 310e ton for bull power nuts.

Would you have like for like prices within your group for the above?

No one in any Half decent group is going to throw out prices of stuff here. My experience from some groups etc is positive provided everyone in it plays ball as there is serious deals to be gotten on meal ,fertiliser ,vetinary ,farm supplies and even on things like mart fees ,banking etc

The part time boy

mahoney_j wrote: »

Dunedin wrote: »

I'm going to push you a little and ask re average prices from your group.

To get the ball rolling, I'm happy to share my own information so here is what I paid for fert this year:

10.10.20: 390e
18.6.12: 350e
24.2.5.10 360e
Urea: 350e

During the winter, I paid 310e ton for bull power nuts.

Would you have like for like prices within your group for the above?

No one in any Half decent group is going to throw out prices of stuff

Why though ?

Wildsurfer

As I previously said and I wasn't joking, it's actually a clause in a contract that you sign on entering group not to discuss the details of prices etc. I suppose if I start blowing to everyone the great deal we might be getting off this or that supplier, then long term customers of that supplier will be going back looking for a better deal, saying if you gave it to them you can give it to me.

charolais0153

Wildsurfer wrote: »

As I previously said and I wasn't joking, it's actually a clause in a contract that you sign on entering group not to discuss the details of prices etc. I suppose if I start blowing to everyone the great deal we might be getting off this or that supplier, then long term customers of that supplier will be going back looking for a better deal, saying if you gave it to them you can give it to me.

Nobody knows u tho

st1979

Totally right. Can't and should not give prices. Proof in the pudding is not many people have left ours. Best part is the reduction in sales people coming to yard. With some prices people outside group can match them. But very rare (maybe never) do we get worse price unless it was due to timing.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Dunedin wrote: »

How much does it cost to join

Sorry for not replying earlier, I forgot all about it until I was going through statements.

The cost this year was 158 euro.

ppn

I know this is an oldish thread but anyone know of any purchasing groups in Tipperary/Limerick area? Happy to pay on time just not happy paying over the top for feed every year, etc.

148multi

ppn wrote: »

I know this is an oldish thread but anyone know of any purchasing groups in Tipperary/Limerick area? Happy to pay on time just not happy paying over the top for feed every year, etc.

You will most likely have to get a member to nominate you.

Dunedin

Any group in the midlands?

148multi

Dunedin wrote: »

Any group in the midlands?

There are a couple in Longford, one very good one, you could join if someone left 🀔