Did you spread fertiliser yet?

Bigbird1

Is it still a bit too cold?

I spread a bag of 0.7.30 to the acre about 6 weeks ago goin by soil samples. Have Urea ready to go this week if it takes up a bit.

i know everyone has there own opinion. Should i wait a while?

darragh_haven

Spead. And spead more. Plenty warm enough

Muckit

Was out today myself and you should see some of my ground. Only thing stopping you from spreading should be if your ground is waterlogged.

After St. Patricks Day the calendar is in your favour. Temp are rising and daylight hours increasing. Grass needs the little push after the winter.

Bigbird1

How much urea do people usualy apply for silage ground?

mahoney_j

95 units urea plus 2500 glns slurry per acre already out ,going with 2*18 6 12 with sulphur next weekend ,

Muckit

Bigbird1 wrote: »

How much urea do people usualy apply for silage ground?

80units of N on old pasture. You want p and k also. I think 120 units of K is recommended. But are there many drystock lads throwing on this?

How about 2 bags 18-6-12 and abag of urea /acre. Have you slurry?

Robson99

Would it be safe going with urea later this week with it promised dry / warm with no rain????

charolais0153

Muckit wrote: »

80units of N on old pasture. You want p and k also. I think 120 units of K is recommended. But are there many drystock lads throwing on this?

How about 2 bags 18-6-12 and abag of urea /acre. Have you slurry?

Would you be light on PS and ks with that

Bigbird1

Muckit wrote: »

80units of N on old pasture. You want p and k also. I think 120 units of K is recommended. But are there many drystock lads throwing on this?

How about 2 bags 18-6-12 and abag of urea /acre. Have you slurry?

2500 gallons of slurry per acre gone out last week

I said

Glas lipp is 1/2 bag 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea.
Silage ground I've done 2500gls to the acre and 4 bags of 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea acre.
All other grazing ground will get a dressing of slurry in autumn 10-10-20 for now

Mooooo

Robson99 wrote: »

Would it be safe going with urea later this week with it promised dry / warm with no rain????

Horse it out

teddy 1223

I said wrote:

Glas lipp is 1/2 bag 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea. Silage ground I've done 2500gls to the acre and 4 bags of 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea acre. All other grazing ground will get a dressing of slurry in autumn 10-10-20 for now

Is that only 30kg of N your spreading on LIPP. Your allowed to spread 40kg

I said

teddy 1223 wrote: »

Is that only 30kg of N your spreading on LIPP. Your allowed to spread 40kg

Yes it's what has been recommended to me

whelan2

What are people paying for silage elite or 24-2.5-10+s ?

Muckit

charolais0153 wrote: »

Would you be light on PS and ks with that

Yes but if things have to be done on a shoe string.

Username John

I said wrote: »

Glas lipp is 1/2 bag 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea.
Silage ground I've done 2500gls to the acre and 4 bags of 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea acre.
All other grazing ground will get a dressing of slurry in autumn 10-10-20 for now

teddy 1223 wrote: »

Is that only 30kg of N your spreading on LIPP. Your allowed to spread 40kg

For GLAS, its "Maximum chemical nitrogen usage is 40 kg N per ha per annum"

Note the per Hectare...

40kg N per Ha, is about 16kg N per acre.

Urea is 46% N, so 23kg N, so 1/2 bag = ~11kg N
18-6-12 is 9kg N, so 1/2 bag = ~5kg

So (by my sums) I said is spot on...

(My sums could be wrong though)

TPF2012

Username John wrote:

Urea is 46% N, so 23units N, so 1/2 bag = ~11units 18-6-12 is 9 units N, so 1/2 bag = ~5units

Does 1 bag of urea not contain 46 units of N? Half a bag of urea gives you 23 units N. Likewise with 18 6 12,a bag of it gives you 18 unit of N, half a bag 9 units.

Limestone Cowboy

Went with 2bags of can and 0-7-30 on dry ground Saturday.

Injuryprone

TPF2012 wrote: »

Does 1 bag of urea not contain 46 units of N? Half a bag of urea gives you 23 units N. Likewise with 18 6 12,a bag of it gives you 18 unit of N, half a bag 9 units.

I think he meant kgs instead of units.

A bag of urea is 50kg total @46% N gives 23kg N, so half a bag is 11.5kg N.
A bag of 18-6-12 is 50kg total @18% N gives 9kg N, so half a bag is 4.5kg N.

Username John

TPF2012 wrote: »

Does 1 bag of urea not contain 46 units of N? Half a bag of urea gives you 23 units N. Likewise with 18 6 12,a bag of it gives you 18 unit of N, half a bag 9 units.

You are right, I said units, when I should have said kg (as Injury prone just said)

Examples

1 bag of 27.5% N = 27.5 units N = 13.7 kg. N.

1 bag of 18-6-12 = 18.0 inits N = 9.0 kg. N = 6.0 units P = 3.0 kg. P. = 12.0 units K = 6.0 kg. K.

From here - http://www.fertilizer-assoc.ie/code-of-good-practice/nutrient-programme/

TPF2012

Username John wrote:

You are right, I said units, when I should have said kg (as Injury prone just said)

It can be confusing, I usually have to write it all down when doing them calculations. I just discovered kg/ha divided by 1.25 gives you units/ac.

Sami23

Username John wrote: »

I said wrote: »

Glas lipp is 1/2 bag 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea.
Silage ground I've done 2500gls to the acre and 4 bags of 18-6-12 and 1/2 bag of urea acre.
All other grazing ground will get a dressing of slurry in autumn 10-10-20 for now

teddy 1223 wrote: »

Is that only 30kg of N your spreading on LIPP. Your allowed to spread 40kg

For GLAS, its "Maximum chemical nitrogen usage is 40 kg N per ha per annum"

Note the per Hectare...

40kg N per Ha, is about 16kg N per acre.

Urea is 46% N, so 23kg N, so 1/2 bag = ~11kg N
18-6-12 is 9kg N, so 1/2 bag = ~5kg

So (by my sums) I said is spot on...

(My sums could be wrong though)

So if I'm spreading only 18.6.12 on LIPP or THM in Glas how many bags per acre can I spread to keep in line with terms and conditions ?
Tia

Muckit

32units an acre.

1 and three quarters (1.75 bags) is dead on the money.

warfie35

whelan2 wrote:

What are people paying for silage elite or 24-2.5-10+s ?

365/Tonne

CloughCasey1

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Went with 2bags of can and 0-7-30 on dry ground Saturday.

Is that for silage LC?

whelan2

warfie35 wrote: »

365/Tonne

Being quoted 320-340 here so far

Limestone Cowboy

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Is that for silage LC?

No, that's for grazing.

Bass Reeves

Spread this year early February about 18 units of acre. Really bought grass on. Started spreading again 10 days ago about 30 units/HA. Used urea mostly except used 18-6-12 on about 8 acres away from farm. Giving silage ground that got slurry in February 100 units of N 120kgs of urea/acre and ground that is to get slurry this week got 70-80 units of N. Silage ground was grazed first and is being closed now.

Bigbird1

100 units of urea so thats just over 2 bags per acre, right ?

Muckit

46units in a bag urea. 2 bags = 92.