Planning Application - What size for print-outs?

tails_naf

I'm applying for permission for a domestic garage, and have drawn up the plans myself. I cannot find any detail on what the size the plans must be submitted as - just that there must be 6 copies.

A4 would be ideal for me, as I could print it myself, but failing that would A3 be suitable / standard?

kieran.

tails_naf wrote: »

I'm applying for permission for a domestic garage, and have drawn up the plans myself. I cannot find any detail on what the size the plans must be submitted as - just that there must be 6 copies.

A4 would be ideal for me, as I could print it myself, but failing that would A3 be suitable / standard?

A4 is fine just make sure the scales are ok for planners. 1:100 for plans 1:200 for elevations 1:500 for site plan and then your osi map at what ever scale you bought it.
The planning authority would usually have a validation checklist on there website.

Gumbo

tails_naf wrote: »

I'm applying for permission for a domestic garage, and have drawn up the plans myself. I cannot find any detail on what the size the plans must be submitted as - just that there must be 6 copies.

A4 would be ideal for me, as I could print it myself, but failing that would A3 be suitable / standard?

A4 is fine. Most people go bigger so thy can fit more on and reduce the amount of drawings.

I use A3 personally.

Just make sure that all 6 copies of each drawing is scaling correctly.

How did you draw them, by hand, cad etc?

Don't forget newspaper notice matches the site notice word for word.
Drawings must have the name and address of the person that prepared them.
North signs.
All elevations and the streets are showing how the garage will look against adjoining houses.

tails_naf

kceire wrote: »

A4 is fine. Most people go bigger so thy can fit more on and reduce the amount of drawings.

I use A3 personally.

Just make sure that all 6 copies of each drawing is scaling correctly.

How did you draw them, by hand, cad etc?

Don't forget newspaper notice matches the site notice word for word.
Drawings must have the name and address of the person that prepared them.
North signs.
All elevations and the streets are showing how the garage will look against adjoining houses.

Thanks for the tips, very helpful (especially as I would have omitted my address on the drawings!) - I used autocad - it took a while to get to grips with it, but I'm in the swing of things now.

In terms of the scaling - I've given dimensions in meters on the drawing but I don't fully get the 500:1 scaling you mention - does it mean that if you took a ruler to the printed out drawing that if you measure 1cm it must represent 5 meters in reality?

Or is it more the case that the drawing is in the 'ballpark' of 500:1, i.e. it gives you a rough idea of the level of 'zoom' ?

sydthebeat

tails_naf wrote: »

Thanks for the tips, very helpful (especially as I would have omitted my address on the drawings!) - I used autocad - it took a while to get to grips with it, but I'm in the swing of things now.

In terms of the scaling - I've given dimensions in meters on the drawing but I don't fully get the 500:1 scaling you mention - does it mean that if you took a ruler to the printed out drawing that if you measure 1cm it must represent 5 meters in reality?

Or is it more the case that the drawing is in the 'ballpark' of 500:1, i.e. it gives you a rough idea of the level of 'zoom' ?

if using autocad....

draw in model space at a 1:1 scale

then go into paper space and create viewports.

type
'z' enter
'1/500xp' enter

that will zoom the viewport back to 1:500.
put your text on paper space

Metric Tensor

tails_naf wrote: »

In terms of the scaling - I've given dimensions in meters on the drawing but I don't fully get the 500:1 scaling you mention - does it mean that if you took a ruler to the printed out drawing that if you measure 1cm it must represent 5 meters in reality?

Yes - that's exactly what it means and it's not a scale if it's not exact!

Syd has explained how to do it in AutoCAD - when I first started I found AutoCAD to be one of the least intuitive programs out there for setting a scale. So check it by hand when you've printed it to make sure!

Metric Tensor

Also - make sure your paperspace is set to 1 unit = 1 metre or 1 millimetre depending on how you drew it in modelspace.

kieran.

sydthebeat wrote: »

put your text on paper space

No god no..... text in model space.

sydthebeat

kieran. wrote: »

No god no..... text in model space.

god no!!!....

but im old school :P

model for drafting, paper for presenting

Gumbo

tails_naf wrote: »

Thanks for the tips, very helpful (especially as I would have omitted my address on the drawings!) - I used autocad - it took a while to get to grips with it, but I'm in the swing of things now.

In terms of the scaling - I've given dimensions in meters on the drawing but I don't fully get the 500:1 scaling you mention - does it mean that if you took a ruler to the printed out drawing that if you measure 1cm it must represent 5 meters in reality?

Or is it more the case that the drawing is in the 'ballpark' of 500:1, i.e. it gives you a rough idea of the level of 'zoom' ?

You need to ensure it scales when printed.

Angry bird

If a planner/validation cannot read the floor plans because it is too small squeezed on an A4 page, it can get invalidated or request for further information re same, i.e. unnecessary delay. Make sure you have north points on the site layout map and floor plans. If it's attached to the house at minimum you will want contextual elevations of the house to distinguish between existing and proposed, clearly. The checklist on the Council website is the best starting point. Last but not least, the description of the development, say 'to erect a domestic garage', on the application form, the site notice and the newspaper notice must match word for word. Good luck

Gumbo

OP, if you want to run your plans by someone prior to lodging, let me know.

tails_naf

kceire wrote: »

OP, if you want to run your plans by someone prior to lodging, let me know.

Thanks - that's very decent of you, and I appreciate the comments and tips about the scaling too. I'm surprised it has to be accurate (given I have dimensions marked), but I'll certainly make it so now.

tails_naf

Metric Tensor wrote: »

Yes - that's exactly what it means and it's not a scale if it's not exact!

Syd has explained how to do it in AutoCAD - when I first started I found AutoCAD to be one of the least intuitive programs out there for setting a scale. So check it by hand when you've printed it to make sure!

I agree - autocad is pretty nice in general after my brief experience with it - but the layout/units/scaling/printing part seems unnecessarily complex. The first time I did a plot preview I was pretty confused - as 'I just want exactly what I see on the screen' - apparently is too much to have a WYSIWYG like interface (like pretty much every other program!).

Metric Tensor

It's partly a legacy issue with the way it developed from the DOS based version but to be fair the multiple paperspaces facilitates multiple layer and plot states. When you have a large project with lots of overlays and xrefs having what you see as what you get would actually be a hindrance.

Calahonda52

As you can't file or scale off a WYSIWYG, I just use the iPad and take a foto and send it to clients if it is deemed useful.
It also makes for easy discussions with clients