Yates On Sunday Thread

PeterTheNinth

May start a new thread for Ivan since he's permanently back on Sunday mornings. This is a great addition to the airwaves. Finucane has been sloppy and unprofessional for far too long, maybe this will force her to up her game against a real pro like Ivan.

Very disappointing to hear Stephen Donnolly now acting as the mouthpiece for Fianna Fail. I thought he was one of the good guys.

padd b1975

Exact same discussion on both shows....

A little more shrill on Newstalk though.

SEPT 23 1989

O Leary on as well

Great stuff

enzo roco

It's so sad listening to Donnelly.
Still can't believe he went to them.

Spanish Eyes

Great to have a choice now. I do not like the dinner party format of like minds on MF.

But FGS that Regina Doherty is very painful to listen to on NT right now. She will not shut up. Yates is not a great moderator, he should give others a chance, but I'm sure he will get into his stride eventually.

PeterTheNinth

padd b1975 wrote: »

Exact same discussion on both shows.... A little more shrill on Newstalk though.

That would be the extra bit of Regina Doherty. It's like trying to carry on a discussion with a blender going in the background.

Kalimah

Absolutely cannot stand Regina Doherty. Screeching stupid obnoxious bully. Love Stephen Donnelly and disappointed he jumped ship to FF.

Badabing

Donnelly is brilliant as ever, soc dems are going nowhere he saw the writing on the wall. He could /would make a great minister after the next election

kneemos

Can't be listening to politicians point scoring of a Sunday morning.

enzo roco

Badabing wrote: »

Donnelly is brilliant as ever, soc dems are going nowhere he saw the writing on the wall. He could /would make a great minister after the next election

I agree he would, but he's with them...
It would be so sad for fianna fail getting back in power....

Here's Oleary, great start to the show

Damiencm

Great to see Mick O'Leary putting yeates in his place on the brexit issue

PeterTheNinth

Damiencm wrote: »

Great to see Mick O'Leary putting yeates in his place on the brexit issue

I thought the earlier discussion with the contributors was a bit of a mess. Stuck on the same issue for ages and people talking over each other. But the chat with O'Leary was good. Loved the way that he jocosely introduced the topic of Willie Mullins and the row over costs. This is the sort of mischievous sort of thing that Brendan O'Connor is good at .. i.e. asking the difficult question that everybody wants him to ask, but asking it in a jokey way so as not to p1ss off the guest.

Yates is way ahead of Tubridy and D'Arcy..... and Cathy Brown.. :pac:

xper

In two minds about Yates returning.

Unlike an unbelievable proportion of Newstalk's 'star' presenters, he can actually carry out the mechanics of radio presenting like reading out announcements and cutting to an ad break in a professional manner. Despite years of experience, Hook, Bobby Kerr and Philip Molloy in particular are still incompetent at this basic stuff. [EDIT: He may indeed have something to learn about moderating a debate as noted above - he wouldn't have done much of that before, I think].

When he is on form and on a topic he cares about, he can be a very good interviewer one-on-one. He of course knows the political landscape inside out and he has an interesting relationship with certain recurring guests (Phil Thompson on just there).

He does suffer from having a very narrow range of subjects he finds personally interesting (its 98% party politics/the gi-gis/man city) and he doesn't attempt to hide it in his questioning when a topic bores him. On a show like this where he is running solo, that may be a long term problem with either a very restricted subject range or the absence of a co-host to jump in when he insults an interviewee (which happened alot on the breakfast show).

He doesn't do research. He actually just said it when talking to O'Leary. That makes him no better than Finuncane in that respect. That feeds in to my biggest issue with him, his tendency to pick an extreme/contrary point of view out of thin air and keep throwing it at however he's talking to no matter how irrational or ill-though out it is. Its lazy interviewing. He did it this morning with his brain-fart idea of Ireland doing a bilateral deal with the UK on Brexit which he brought up both with his political panel and O'Leary. When FG, FF and Sinn Fein reps and Michael O'Leary are all dismissing your idea effortlessly, you should know you are talking ****e.

The biggest downside of his new show though is the relegation of Off The Ball's Sunday paper review to a podcast - possibly the best hour of Irish radio in any week when they have Gary O'Toole or Paul Kimmage on.

newcavanman

I have to say i was very disappointed with this show this morning . Ive been a real long term fan of Yates on the breakfast show and i was expecting great things here . Marian Finucane is ripe for the plucking , but on this evidence, ivan yates wont be doing it . The panel were useless, a typical politicians, pick and mix, the sort of boring whingers that normally nowadays inhabit Newstalk Drivetime . Even the interview with Michael O Leary wasnt as good as it should have been. Hes radio gold and it should have been the launch platform for the show . If this show is to go anywhere, then perhaps they could take a few suggestions from Brendan O Connors cutting edge. Think outside the box, dont try to reinvent the wheel, think of something different

Donal55

Ten Pin wrote: »

From good guys to Goodfellas

Yep, couldnt understand Donnelly meself. Wants the Commish to do the right thing as they've lost confidence in her but if she doesn't, neither he nor FF will not vote 'no confidence' in her!
He settled into FF fairly easily alright.

Loafing Oaf

xper wrote: »

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The biggest downside of his new show though is the relegation of Off The Ball's Sunday paper review to a podcast - possibly the best hour of Irish radio in any week when they have Gary O'Toole or Paul Kimmage on.

Did seem to very heavily sport-oriented though, for those suffering withdrawal. Maybe Ivan and OTB crew could do the last half hour jointly...

neris

Thought Ivan was very soft on jack oconnor. A man taking home 6 figure salaries and a big pension pot while his members struggled. Jack seems to be a very bitter man towards the private sector and seems to resent anyone setting up a business and employing people to do work. Kept referring to jobs as slavery.

PeterTheNinth

I've always thought that Jack O'Connor has got an easy ride. Especially every time when he refers to "the rich", it's never put to him that he is actually one of the rich.

jordata

Fore warning! Ivan just gave us listeners to High Noon the heads up that his featured guest this Sunday will be EU Commissioner Phil Hogan.

I'll be switching off :mad:

My Sundays are too precious to listen to that.

Lady Chatterton

Ivan and his panel were discussing Mary Harney's recent criticism of some current ministers who break cabinet confidentiality by tweeting or leaking stories to journalists during meetings.

She probably has a point but ........Dear God, some people should know when to keep their mouth shut. It was after all Mary Harney's big gob that contributed to Charlie Haughey not having to stand trial on charges of obstructing the McCracken Tribunal :rolleyes:

The High Court has upheld a Circuit Court ruling made last June which postponed indefinitely Charles Haughey's trial on charges of obstructing the McCracken Tribunal.

Judge Haugh made his controversial decision last June. He said that there was a real and substantial risk that the former Taoiseach would not be able to get a fair trial.

He cited comments made by the Tánaiste, Mary Harney, and leaflets advertising a rally, which featured Mr Haughey and bore the slogan "jail the corrupt politicians".

https://www.rte.ie/news/2000/1103/9793-haughey/

xper

xper wrote: »

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He doesn't do research. He actually just said it when talking to O'Leary. That makes him no better than Finuncane in that respect. That feeds in to my biggest issue with him, his tendency to pick an extreme/contrary point of view out of thin air and keep throwing it at however he's talking to no matter how irrational or ill-though out it is. Its lazy interviewing. He did it this morning with his brain-fart idea of Ireland doing a bilateral deal with the UK on Brexit which he brought up both with his political panel and O'Leary. When FG, FF and Sinn Fein reps and Michael O'Leary are all dismissing your idea effortlessly, you should know you are talking ****e....

Christ, he just tried floating this bilateral talks idea again in this morning's panel discussion. He was immediately bitch-slapped by Alan Dukes about raising this "nonsense" again. Ha! :pac:

ButtersSuki

I didn't listen to Yates and Bertie on Sunday. Did anyone? I'm curious as the promo said they were going to discuss Brexit and most interestingly The Mahon Tribunal. Would be curious to hear how it went.........and particularly if Yates was as fawning over the Iar-Taoiseach as the rest of Newstalk seem to be?

xper

Ah it was ridiculous. Yates brought the subject up by asking did he feel treated badly by Fianna Fail (as if that ****ing matters) and it went downhill from there. Ahern has obviously been taking notes from Sharapova and Trump. He barefaced said he had proven his case and that the tribunal's rejection of his explanations was just wrong and that's that. Did Yates take him to task on this? Did he ****.

After this, Jack O'Connor and Michael O'Leary, it is clear these 'profile' interviews he has on this new show are a carbon copy of the softly, softly, tell-us-how-wonderful-you-are ****e Marion indulges in. Sunday morning radio is gone to the dogs.

Harry Angstrom

Still raking over the coals of the Brexit vote... The Irish chattering classes still can't get their heads around why the UK voted to leave such a bloated bureaucracy, and how dare Theresa May play hardball with our Eurocrat friends :rolleyes:

Conservative

Ivan is going too easy on this one. She sounds like a character from a Damien Dempsey song. Utter drivel.

Really enjoy the first hour of this show not so sure about the formula for the second.

sleepyman

Why does she get a free pass on the things she did when she was younger?Loads of people grow up in deprived backgrounds & don't resort to robbing cars etc?

applehunter

That interview with Shane Lowry was awkward.

Nathan Murphy is regretting passing the mic.

Azatadine

That certainly was awkward to say the least. He clearly annoyed Lowrey. I don't think he meant it in a "bad" way but it went down very badly. Bad timing I suppose.

Beechwoodspark

Cortecs wrote: »

That certainly was awkward to say the least. He clearly annoyed Lowrey. I don't think he meant it in a "bad" way but it went down very badly. Bad timing I suppose.

I was listening and it was very awkward. I think Yates himself didn't know what to say when Lowry slapped him down

Loafing Oaf

I didn't hear all of the Lucinda interview: did she give any sign she was interested in getting back in the game, now that her old mucker Leo is running FG?

Beechwoodspark

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I didn't hear all of the Lucinda interview: did she give any sign she was interested in getting back in the game, now that her old mucker Leo is running FG?

She was pretty blasé regarding him. She said something about him potentially being good if he follows his instincts.