arer people convicted of speeding getting a criminal record

melloa

are people who are getting convicted in abstentia gettin a criminal record or is it a civil thing

johnnyskeleton

Criminal

melloa

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Criminal

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melloa

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Criminal

first sorry for my earlier reply (mistook the forum)

incredible,

so you are saying if a person is caught speeding, ignores/ doesn't receive the fc penalty,

then it goes to court and the person is thereby convicted, has a criminal record?

what about if the driver did not have the money to pay the original 60 day fine nor the 90 day fine?

i can see how iy would be technically a conviction (depending on the outcome in court)

but a criminal offence,

please?

jimmycrackcorm

I got done for speeding in the days before speeding tickets when you had to go to court. I recall the judge saying "Fined & Convicted" t the end.

melloa

then they must send the letters by registered mail,

or even express mail,

but not by normal mail,

any lawyer could see it

ps it cost around 5 quid to send a reg letter,
convicting someone to a record etc costs 1000's of dollars

Peregrinus

melloa wrote: »

first sorry for my earlier reply (mistook the forum)

incredible,

so you are saying if a person is caught speeding, ignores/ doesn't receive the fc penalty,

then it goes to court and the person is thereby convicted, has a criminal record?

what about if the driver did not have the money to pay the original 60 day fine nor the 90 day fine?

i can see how iy would be technically a conviction (depending on the outcome in court)

but a criminal offence,

please?

The offence isn't not paying the fine. The offence is speeding, and the fact that you don't have money to pay the fine is irrelevant to the question of whether you were speeding in the first place. Speeding is a criminal offence so, if convicted, you have a criminal record.

In Ireland, we don't have any offences that aren't criminal offences. A criminal record is a record of the fact that you have been convicted of one or more offences, however minor.

4ensic15

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Little CuChulainn

melloa wrote: »

then they must send the letters by registered mail,

or even express mail,

but not by normal mail,

any lawyer could see it

ps it cost around 5 quid to send a reg letter,
convicting someone to a record etc costs 1000's of dollars

The delivery of both summons and fixed charge penalties should be the same. Personal service by a Garda or delivery by registered post. The requirement to make a declaration before a peace commissioner about service of a summons should be shelved also.

Really Interested

melloa wrote: »

then they must send the letters by registered mail,

or even express mail,

but not by normal mail,

any lawyer could see it

ps it cost around 5 quid to send a reg letter,
convicting someone to a record etc costs 1000's of dollars

While I agree about sending FPN by registered post, it does not costs 1000's of euro to convict someone in the District Court. But any conviction is a criminal conviction, accepting a FPN is not a criminal conviction.

FishOnABike

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

The delivery of both summons and fixed charge penalties should be the same. Personal service by a Garda or delivery by registered post. The requirement to make a declaration before a peace commissioner about service of a summons should be shelved also.

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There is no practical need for anything more than a person's own oral or written oath or affirmation that something they say or submit to the court is true.