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Does Ireland know anything about Affiliate Marketing?

  • 27-03-2017 4:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭


    I'm flabbergasted at just how under the radar Affiliate Marketing and online Lead Generation as a means to earning is in this country.

    I've been working in the Affiliate Industry now both as an Affiliate Marketer & Media Buyer, to working in the network and advertiser side of the industry. I have Media Buying clients from all over the world, mainly US, UK, Netherlands, Canada, Russia, Ukraine and China.

    With the amount of trained media buyers and marketing skills specifically in Dublin, how are there not more people breaking away to run their own business, work from home, and get involved in a really cool sub-sector of the internet marketing industry?

    Does anyone here have affiliate experience? Have you heard about it but think its just another "Make Money at Home" Scam? Very interested to hear everyone's thoughts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Bump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    There's plenty of activity in Ireland. You just don't see a lot of people talking about it on boards.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Blacknight wrote: »
    There's plenty of activity in Ireland. You just don't see a lot of people talking about it on boards.ie

    Well yes I dont expect details of andvanced traffic techniques, but there really isnt a lot of people actively engaged in the area. There are people like iProspect and Lead Generation companies, but I'm talking more about the people who build themselves up buying traffic, running offers, build a small team of 2/3.

    "Lots of activity" - can you estimate a number on it? At conferences, online, Clients, network signups, I've come across a total of 2 other Irish people, out of Thousands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    You just don't know.

    About two years ago, I was at the meat counter in my small town local supermarket. I knew the attendent serving me by sight but not by name, but she knew I was involved in tech and websites.

    Out of the blue she asked me if I had any suggestions for affiliate plugins for WordPress. That sparked an interesting conversation where I found out that apart from her part-time supermarket job, she had a fairly decent income from affiliate sales. Her niche was expensive products related to a popular TV show, don't want to say more than that. She had a pretty advanced knowledge of affiliate marketing.

    You just don't know :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Trojan wrote: »
    You just don't know.

    About two years ago, I was at the meat counter in my small town local supermarket. I knew the attendent serving me by sight but not by name, but she knew I was involved in tech and websites.

    Out of the blue she asked me if I had any suggestions for affiliate plugins for WordPress. That sparked an interesting conversation where I found out that apart from her part-time supermarket job, she had a fairly decent income from affiliate sales. Her niche was expensive products related to a popular TV show, don't want to say more than that. She had a pretty advanced knowledge of affiliate marketing.

    You just don't know :)

    THat's deadly, genuinely, love when I come accross that stuff.

    LIke not to sound like an asshole, but she's not really a full time affiliate, and was maybe more related to blogging than your hardcore, full time, traffic spending affiliate. But it's all part of the game.

    Most bloggers at this stage have discovered affiliate links, setups to retail etc., but from a leadgen perspective not so much, In my experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭stapolinhosting


    I started doing affiliate marketing online back in 1996 marketing FTP software (winzip and some other network products). At the time I think they called it being a Webvar (never actually found out what they meant lol).

    Back then I was making approx $1000 a month, paid by cheque. In comparison to today's internet and marketing, it was a hell of a lot easier to make money in affiliate marketing back then. You simply spammed internet forums and chat rooms with bits of content and backlinks anywhere you could get them. I don't do affiliate marketing these days, but have often looked into it with the idea of getting back into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    I started doing affiliate marketing online back in 1996 marketing FTP software (winzip and some other network products). At the time I think they called it being a Webvar (never actually found out what they meant lol).

    Back then I was making approx $1000 a month, paid by cheque. In comparison to today's internet and marketing, it was a hell of a lot easier to make money in affiliate marketing back then. You simply spammed internet forums and chat rooms with bits of content and backlinks anywhere you could get them. I don't do affiliate marketing these days, but have often looked into it with the idea of getting back into it.

    Good to hear pal, if you'd like to chat a bit more maybe I can give you a bit of insight into the sector these days, what's working and what isn't, what the top guys are moving towards etc. Glad to chat. PM if you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Or here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭stapolinhosting


    Pivot Eoin wrote: »
    Good to hear pal, if you'd like to chat a bit more maybe I can give you a bit of insight into the sector these days, what's working and what isn't, what the top guys are moving towards etc. Glad to chat. PM if you like.

    Ive got too much going on at the moment to get back into it any time soon. One thing I do know about it, is, it takes time and effort, both of which I am short on lol..

    in saying that, I have planned for some time to set up some affiliate websites for deals, coupons etc. I made a start on it a few times, but I just didn't have the time to really get stuck into it and it went on the long finger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Ive got too much going on at the moment to get back into it any time soon. One thing I do know about it, is, it takes time and effort, both of which I am short on lol..

    in saying that, I have planned for some time to set up some affiliate websites for deals, coupons etc. I made a start on it a few times, but I just didn't have the time to really get stuck into it and it went on the long finger.

    You're not wrong there. Well if you ever find yourself with the time hit me up for a chat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Digital_Guy


    VERY timely post as I am just getting into affiliate marketing for the first time! I had always thought of it as too saturated and competitive, and aside from randomly signing up for Clickbank one day, never seriously considered it.

    Have been reading up about it a lot more lately and have a few things on the go now. Getting some results in terms of ads / landing pages and so on, no revenue yet but obviously early days. Have also set up a Facebook group for like-minded entrepreneurs with experience in funnels, FB ads, conversion optimisation and digital marketing in general, so that's going to help a lot too! Plus it should be fun :)

    I reckon a big reason you don't hear much about it from people is partly because it's an area relatively few people understand and are interested in, but also because some people like to stay under the radar with whatever it is that's working for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    VERY timely post as I am just getting into affiliate marketing for the first time! I had always thought of it as too saturated and competitive, and aside from randomly signing up for Clickbank one day, never seriously considered it.

    Have been reading up about it a lot more lately and have a few things on the go now. Getting some results in terms of ads / landing pages and so on, no revenue yet but obviously early days. Have also set up a Facebook group for like-minded entrepreneurs with experience in funnels, FB ads, conversion optimisation and digital marketing in general, so that's going to help a lot too! Plus it should be fun :)

    I reckon a big reason you don't hear much about it from people is partly because it's an area relatively few people understand and are interested in, but also because some people like to stay under the radar with whatever it is that's working for them.

    Join the groups FB Ad Buyers, Super Got Damn Affiliates, Affiliate Marketing. Lots of good info in there.

    Generally people will actually be quite open about what's working for them, they just aint gonna give away the stuff they've learned from spending thousands on traffic and acquiring data, which is understandable. But in terms of verticals and traffic sources people are quite open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    i used to do back in the good old days of ringtones and weight loss rebills. from about 2005 to 2011. it was always feast or famine, i knew i wasn't going to do it forever. no moat as buffett would say. i remember getting clicks for half a cent in the early days of FB flyers. like printing money then. FB welcomed affiliates then, now they ban on sight. same as Google Adwords.

    what offers do you run OP? what traffic sources? obviously give vague answers, don't out yourself.

    i think aff marketing is kinda dead. the forums i used to frequent are dead and people i met at conferences have real jobs now on their linkedin. by far the main money now is selling people courses on how to do affiliate marketing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Affiliate Marketing certainly aint dead. I know Hundreds personally still in the game, and thousands more by association and knowledge of registrations through networks. Also the thousands of people at Affiliate Summit Vegas in Jan, and I'm going to Aff World Europe in Berlin next month.

    FB and Google yes are banning everything in sight, but most good and big affiliates are cloaking and Farming lots of accounts in preparation for Bans in the Black Hat world. There is plenty of activity though in White Hat Aff Marketing now aswell. Everything from PayPer Call, to Leadgen for Legit Businesses, and E-Commerce is a popular one now too.

    There is a few Guru BS people out there selling Aff Marketing courses etc. only 1 or 2 are actually legit.

    Still Billions being made per year by Affiliates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,153 ✭✭✭jj880


    I have a friend who does most of his selling on jvzoo. Uses an email list, affilliates, purchase bonuses etc. He makes money at it but from the outside it looks like selling people rubbish and then trying not to give refunds.

    I guess no-one forces anyone to make a purchase online but it just seems like ripping people off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 manjiana


    Hi! I am new to Ireland but have experience in affiliate marketing for about 8 years. Can you suggest me any information about paying taxes as a home working affiliate marketer? How does it happen here?

    I moved to Dublin a month ago and thinking on starting a few campaigns but don't actually understand if I should pay any taxes from my earnings.

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    manjiana wrote: »
    Hi! I am new to Ireland but have experience in affiliate marketing for about 8 years. Can you suggest me any information about paying taxes as a home working affiliate marketer? How does it happen here?

    I moved to Dublin a month ago and thinking on starting a few campaigns but don't actually understand if I should pay any taxes from my earnings.

    Thanks in advance.

    Hey Pal, be glad to help you out with this. PM me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Fio33


    Hi, trying to think of some fundraising ideas for our local club and thought a shopping page of affiliate links would be a good start. Can anyone tell me if it is easy to set up and just a matter of contacting large online retail sites, joining their affiliate programs and putting links on our website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭stapolinhosting


    Fio33 wrote: »
    Hi, trying to think of some fundraising ideas for our local club and thought a shopping page of affiliate links would be a good start. Can anyone tell me if it is easy to set up and just a matter of contacting large online retail sites, joining their affiliate programs and putting links on our website?

    Give https://www.awin.com/ie (Affiliate Window) a look. They have loads of companies from UK and Ireland with product feeds on their site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭lew1s


    I would like to run affiliate network in Ireland. Got some affiliate websites. Just started this year. But if you are looking for best know how register to stm forum 100$ per month.

    Can you give me some example of good affiliate websites in Ireland?

    I think affiliate is dead in Ireland. What you think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    I use STM, Its good, but a lot of outdated info on there. My advice would be to look at the likes of affiliate Fix and lap up as much content as you can to decide on a niche to tackle, then using FB and groups like Ive posted above, reach out to people looking for trustworthy experts who have training on those niches.

    No I agree, aside from iGaming, the affiliate industry is near on non existent in Ireland. I've spoke to companies looking to hire for Affiliate Sections, and individual affiliates, and everyone says the same. I've been at grossly under-attended affiliate meetups. In these sense that I am speaking about anyway, yes seems to be very little interest or experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Poppledop


    Pivot Eoin wrote: »
    I'm flabbergasted at just how under the radar Affiliate Marketing and online Lead Generation as a means to earning is in this country.

    Small country. A few the affiliate networks had offices here in Ireland a few years ago but it just did not work out
    I've been working in the Affiliate Industry now both as an Affiliate Marketer & Media Buyer, to working in the network and advertiser side of the industry. I have Media Buying clients from all over the world, mainly US, UK, Netherlands, Canada, Russia, Ukraine and China.

    With the amount of trained media buyers and marketing skills specifically in Dublin, how are there not more people breaking away to run their own business, work from home, and get involved in a really cool sub-sector of the internet marketing industry?

    Most of them have done the "digital marketing course" so are essentially clueless. I doubt any of them even know what affiliate marketing is.
    Does anyone here have affiliate experience? Have you heard about it but think its just another "Make Money at Home" Scam? Very interested to hear everyone's thoughts.

    Yes I have affiliate experience. Yes there are scams but it's all part of the experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭lew1s


    Pivot Eoin wrote: »
    I use STM, Its good, but a lot of outdated info on there. My advice would be to look at the likes of affiliate Fix and lap up as much content as you can to decide on a niche to tackle, then using FB and groups like Ive posted above, reach out to people looking for trustworthy experts who have training on those niches.

    No I agree, aside from iGaming, the affiliate industry is near on non existent in Ireland. I've spoke to companies looking to hire for Affiliate Sections, and individual affiliates, and everyone says the same. I've been at grossly under-attended affiliate meetups. In these sense that I am speaking about anyway, yes seems to be very little interest or experience.

    I run some affiliate sites but its impossible to sell something when here are no any affiliate advertisers in this niche. So thats why I moving to Dropshipping business with paid Facebook traffic.

    My girlfriend studying Digital marketing and they teach her ****e. Nothing about proper internet marketing. It's a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    lew1s wrote: »
    I run some affiliate sites but its impossible to sell something when here are no any affiliate advertisers in this niche. So thats why I moving to Dropshipping business with paid Facebook traffic.

    My girlfriend studying Digital marketing and they teach her ****e. Nothing about proper internet marketing. It's a shame.

    Hi Lewis, send me a message about your niches. Is it Irish traffic only? Yes there is nowhere near enough Irish Affiliate Programmes out there. If you have good levels of traffic I would encourage you to reach out and setup your own deals with relevant businesses.

    Yes the digital marketing taught in college is absolute nonsense. 5-7 years outdated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


    Hi Everyone,

    I've received a lot of messages from people wanting to know more about Affiliate Marketing.

    People have been asking:
      How do I get into Affiliate Marketing?
      [*]What verticals and markets are hot and working at the moment?
      [*]Where can I find the best online training to get into Affiliate Marketing?
      [*]How do I setup and run my own online e-commerce dropshipping business?



      At times getting the drive to really commit down these roads can be tough.

      So I'm considering organizing a Meetup somewhere in Dublin in mid/late September where I will go through the above topics and speak to people 1 on 1 about what they want to do and where they can start. This would be Free to attend.

      I'm trying to gauge if there's enough interest for this to be worthwhile. If you would be interested in this please PM me, like this post or Both!

      I'd be glad to help people get on their way.

      Thanks,

      Eoin.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


      Pivot Eoin wrote: »
      Hi Everyone,

      I've received a lot of messages from people wanting to know more about Affiliate Marketing.

      People have been asking:
        How do I get into Affiliate Marketing?
        [*]What verticals and markets are hot and working at the moment?
        [*]Where can I find the best online training to get into Affiliate Marketing?
        [*]How do I setup and run my own online e-commerce dropshipping business?



        At times getting the drive to really commit down these roads can be tough.

        So I'm considering organizing a Meetup somewhere in Dublin in mid/late September where I will go through the above topics and speak to people 1 on 1 about what they want to do and where they can start. This would be Free to attend.

        I'm trying to gauge if there's enough interest for this to be worthwhile. If you would be interested in this please PM me, like this post or Both!

        I'd be glad to help people get on their way.

        Thanks,

        Eoin.

        Have 5 or 6 already messaging me about this, gonna give a little bump to see for more interest. Would be nice to get all details out early next week.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


        So here's details about the event guys:

        October 4th, Will be in a Pub in Dublin City somewhere (TBC) at 7pm til about 9.30 but that's flexible. All details on the eventbrite page below. It's Obviously like I said a Free to attend event.

        https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dublin-affiliate-marketing-meetup-tickets-37868334207


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 agame


        I'm working on 2 affiliate sites for Irish market at the moment, have some (mostly outdated but real) online marketing experience, plus web and content development but this is my first time at aff marketing from this side. I won't make it to the meet up but if anything comes of it in the way of online groups or whatever I'd appreciate being included.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 gmuni1


        Hi there. Im thinking of doing an online course but im unsure. I guess it all seems a bit too good to be true in how much money you can make. I think I will do the course but I would love to speak to someone that is successful in this area that is not trying to sell me anything. Any taughts?


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Digital_Guy


        gmuni1 wrote: »
        Hi there. Im thinking of doing an online course but im unsure. I guess it all seems a bit too good to be true in how much money you can make. I think I will do the course but I would love to speak to someone that is successful in this area that is not trying to sell me anything. Any taughts?

        Hi there,

        If you want to share the course with us we could prob give some feedback on it.

        I'm an SEO guy just getting into affiliate marketing. I only really started a few weeks ago and so far I've made around €150 - just from one FB post :) It's really about 3 things imo:

        -Building an audience and networking with your contacts
        -Adding value. Value, value, value!
        -Referrals - not just applicable to products but also services

        I may make the meet up, sounds good anyway!


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


        Hi there,

        If you want to share the course with us we could prob give some feedback on it.

        I'm an SEO guy just getting into affiliate marketing. I only really started a few weeks ago and so far I've made around €150 - just from one FB post :) It's really about 3 things imo:

        -Building an audience and networking with your contacts
        -Adding value. Value, value, value!
        -Referrals - not just applicable to products but also services

        I may make the meet up, sounds good anyway!

        From an SEO perspective yes it is partly all about what you say. 95% of individual affiliates work with Paid Traffic... they're all too impatient for SEO to kick in! :D


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Digital_Guy


        Pivot Eoin wrote: »
        From an SEO perspective yes it is partly all about what you say. 95% of individual affiliates work with Paid Traffic... they're all too impatient for SEO to kick in! :D

        Haha yep! There's a huge number of people out there working with paid traffic, driving to their offers. And that's just people in general re SEO, not just affiliates :D All about the long game...but people don't want to hear that shock horror :pac:


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


        Hey Everyone,

        So the Meetup is soldout which is great news. Should have about 25-30 people there. Looking forward to it, will send out an email blast tomorrow.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


        Pivot Eoin wrote: »
        Hey Everyone,

        So the Meetup is soldout which is great news. Should have about 25-30 people there. Looking forward to it, will send out an email blast tomorrow.

        1 more space available now due to Cancellation.

        Register Here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dublin-affiliate-marketing-meetup-tickets-37868334207


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭laurie88


        Glad that this platform type of business has interest. I believe that it will be the norm one day to do business this way and not the way it is now, attached with stigma and scam.
        Business to watch both here in the UK and Ireland is Isagenix, a health and Nutrition company. You all can look it up and make your own assumptions. It's not as much an affiliate company as it is Network Marketing. In perspective, it's very similar.
        However there is another company that I am well aware of that is soley an Affiliate Marketing based company that I'm involved with that is geared to change the whole game. It's still in Beta mode; but consider this,
        Imagine not having to deal with SEO, generating leads, creating websites, links etc
        Think about being linked to online merchants like Ebay, Amazon, Hotels.com, Nike, E Toro, William Hill and tons more
        Once we are ready to launch on both Stock exchanges and going live with ALL our platforms, I would be ready to tell anyone more should there be interest.
        Cheers


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      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Pivot Eoin


        laurie88 wrote: »
        Business to watch both here in the UK and Ireland is Isagenix, a health and Nutrition company. You all can look it up and make your own assumptions. It's not as much an affiliate company as it is Network Marketing. In perspective, it's very similar.

        As far as I can tell this seems to be the exact same business model as those horrible Bastards Herbalife in US. I would stray away from working on anything as such as this. Watch "Betting on Zero" Netflix documentary to see the hidden underbelly of this business model. Horrible.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 447 ✭✭PaulPinnacle


        laurie88 wrote: »
        It's still in Beta mode; but consider this,
        Imagine not having to deal with SEO, generating leads, creating websites, links etc
        If you're running a business and imagining not having to do something as basic and fundamental as marketing you need to look at yourself and ask some serious questions.

        There are all sorts of situations where being able to generate additional sales through affiliate schemes, referral schemes, all sorts of multi channel selling propositions is fantastic (and what I'd imagine Eoin would have been talking about at his meetup).... but if someone is pitching a new affiliate offering as being a replacement for all of the basic marketing work a business NEEDS to do then it's going to fail horribly.

        Nobody will take it seriously as that's quite obviously and irrefutably a flawed proposition. I obviously can't comment on the business itself, but a description of it of that nature sets off every possible red flag.


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 HarryJD1


        Hey Eoin & all 😀

        Great post. I'm rarely on Boards even though I know it's a good resource.
        Anyway, I'm quite familiar with A.M. and native Irishman 😄

        I'm involved in Internet business. Retail/sales, marketing etc. Presently I'm building a business into a company with Enterprise Ireland in retail sales.
        I have been researching A.M. For a while now. I've got a lot of patience so carrying out comprehensive research and I'm just about to kick it off right now on website, S.M., cross-promote etc.

        Overall I Am very much dedicated to the whole ball game and on it full on. I know it will grow huge for me, I have no doubt even in the back of my mind ... so the hard part is already done ðŸ˜

        As for A.M., in my scope, experience, training I clearly see its absolutely booming globally. Affiliate marketing is like everything in one way.
        Most ppl are caught up in the daily grind and feel they've no time for anything else. It takes specific characteristics to fully dedicate and commit consistently.

        That's exactly where I'm at. Here's one A.M. guide . . .

        DO learn how to affiliate market utilising following, exposure, product choice, the right tools, correct funnels, trusted resources etc.

        DON'T get an affiliate link, post it somewhere and wait/hope for sales. It won't happen 😲

        Being open, networking, making aquaintances, business partners, helping eachother etc are things I always do, it's just a staple fundamental.

        Get back to me here, ya can reach me as below and let's make this happen!

        J.D.

        Facebook com/ harryjdtate


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 HarryJD1


        "I WANT MY BLOODY SMILEYS TO APPEAR!" :-}


      • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭stapolinhosting


        IM back.. and I am just starting to get stuck back into affiliate marketing. Looking at YouTube, series of videos, that sort of thing.

        It's for different cryptocurrency markets/platforms, so nothing really local, but hoping it works out and I get some people using my affiliate links.


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