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Death was right....

  • 27-03-2017 3:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭


    CATS, he said, CATS ARE NICE

    Told you so. Knew it all along. People who say cats are ***** are just saying it out of bias.
    Although there was clear individual variability in cat preference, social interaction with humans was the most-preferred stimulus category for the majority of cats, followed by food

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376635716303424

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    social interaction with humans was the most-preferred stimulus category for the majority of cats, followed by food


    Great. A kick up the arse and a tin of whiskers on the way for moggins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Anyone one who is close to one knows how affectionate they can be. Mine love attention, they'll seek me out in the house for rubs, especially if I've been away for a while. They can even becoming a bit clingy at times, constantly following me around, wanting to be sitting up on my lap etc.

    It takes a while to get to this stage though, you have to win their trust and affection. This is why they're usually wary of strangers.

    All the effort is worth it in the end though. Their purring, chirping and squeaky meows never fail to lift my spirits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    CATS, he said, CATS ARE NICE

    Told you so. Knew it all along. People who say cats are ***** are just saying it out of bias.



    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376635716303424

    There is nothing in that that says cats are not *****. They are just ***** that like human interaction.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Just because cats like interacting with humans doesn't mean that humans have to like interacting with cats.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Ah I have to admit a bias towards dogs. As much as I love my cat I don't miss her when she's not around or when I'm away. Just isn't that connection there.

    And it's like she'll come looking for cuddles alright but only when SHE'S in the mood. If I'm upset and pick her up for a cuddle she'll just run off on me.

    So in short, I love cats but love dogs more. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Cats can be right snobs, all over you in the house, but when you see them outside they pretend they don't see you or just runaway. Of course when they want feeding, nice as pie, meowing and rubbing against your leg. Fecking users!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Yeah but Donald Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Cats can be right snobs, all over you in the house, but when you see them outside they pretend they don't see you or just runaway. Of course when they want feeding, nice as pie, meowing and rubbing against your leg. Fecking users!

    Cats are constantly on the look out for either prey or danger when outdoors, like all intelligent species self preservation and personal safety is ingrained in them. Hence the sometimes flighty response to a human attempting to approach.

    Although in my experience they don't flee when their owner approaches them, mine will often be there to greet me at the gate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    stimpson wrote: »
    There is nothing in that that says cats are not *****. They are just ***** that like human interaction.

    Could say the same thing about most humans, in fairness!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    Your Face wrote: »
    Yeah but Donald Trump.

    Fake news. Sad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Although in my experience they don't flee when their owner approaches them, mine will often be there to greet me at the gate.

    +1 .. many years ago when I work shifts, I'd arrive home in the early hours and would hear the bell on her collar as she arrived from wherever she'd been to meet me at the front door.

    She was a bully otherwise though! Watching 3 fully grown Rottweilers have to wait patiently while she helped herself to their water was always amusing. But then she was there before they were and they grew up with her as pups so they'd also "back her up" when some other cat dared set foot on "her" walls! :p

    Cats are great. I'd love to have one again but renting rules that out :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    cats are the Devils work. Absolute bastereds.
    This poor woman suffered a fate worse than death itself:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/woman-attacked-by-neighbours-mischievous-cat-settles-case-for-damages-35559878.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    There once were two cats of Kilkenny,
    Each thought there was one cat too many,
    So they fought and they fit,
    And they scratched and they bit,
    Till, excepting their nails
    And the tips of their tails,
    Instead of two cats, there weren't any.

    It is a wonder cats like us at all. That rhyme comes from English soldiers in Kilkenny who would tie two cats together using their tail, then hang them on a line so the two cats were facing each other and the two cats would fight one another.

    That is why Kilkenny is associated with cats and cats that fight...but cats still like us.

    I love my cats, they control rats and mice, one is missing but in the past has gone missing for a good while before returning.
    Love my dog too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Jrop


    I adore my cats. Tyger is a grumpy ginger fella but when I'm sick he cuddles up to me. Jade-Martha is a live wire but comes for cuddles. They give me so much joy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    CATS, he said, CATS ARE NICE

    Told you so. Knew it all along. People who say cats are ***** are just saying it out of bias.
    Although there was clear individual variability in cat preference, social interaction with humans was the most-preferred stimulus category for the majority of cats, followed by food

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376635716303424

    Not buying that. Cats interact with humans purely in the hope of receiving food. Cats are born predators who prey on humans just as they do on mice, except instead of torturing humans physically like they do to mice, they prey on their emotions. Anyone who cares for a cat can see the look of disdain in their eyes for humans. If cats were the size of Labradors, they'd be interacting with humans by trying to eat us! But that's what makes them a more interesting companion than a dog imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    I hate cats...all cats. That includes your cats OP and every other degenerate cat-owner reading this thread.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Ah you'd easy get away with a cat when renting Kaiser. LL will never find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Jrop wrote: »
    Tyger is a grumpy ginger fella but when I'm sick he cuddles up to me.

    Tyger is so checking to see if you're still alive, or can he start eating you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Please, Mods! Don't ban me for this. (I'll accept a red card :D) We're all adults, and just having the craic, right?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    Zaph wrote: »
    Just because cats like interacting with humans doesn't mean that humans have to like interacting with cats.

    Who said they have to?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    One morning I work up and went to the kitchen. I put on the kettle and made a cup of coffee. As the kettle was boiling I scratched the cat behind the ear. I sat down with my coffee and book. I was sitting there, leaning forward over the table so I could read my book, drinking my coffee when I screamed. I was wearing boxers. One of my nads had slipped out and the cat saw something dangling over the edge of the chair.


    Cats are nice? My bollox they are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    I love cats and I love dogs as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    Preach. My cat is the best, he's super nice and affectionate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    I have a rescue cat. He's all the way from the mean streets of Egypt. He's a pleasant mix of an adorably affectionate kitty and a demon direct from the bowels of hell.

    One minute he'll be curled up sound asleep on your chest, the next minute he'll be chewing a hole in your hand.

    He yells at me (legit yells, not meows) for a good 5 minutes first thing every morning. I can only assume this is to show his displeasure at not being allowed in my room at night. But the reason he's not allowed in my room is because he got into the habit of biting me in the armpit to wake me up.

    But he always has time for a rub, a cuddle or a head butt and is hand on heart the sweetest cat I've ever met.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    He yells at me (legit yells, not meows) for a good 5 minutes first thing every morning. I can only assume this is to show his displeasure at not being allowed in my room at night. But the reason he's not allowed in my room is because he got into the habit of biting me in the armpit to wake me up.

    Mine used to try suffocation first by lying across my neck for a few minutes... if that didn't work she'd bite my cheek and hold on until I agreed it was time to get up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭Pac1Man


    I like cats. They're impressive. Pound for pound one of the best predators on the planet.

    However I don't know if I could trust one. They have retractable claws!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Mine used to try suffocation first by lying across my neck for a few minutes... if that didn't work she'd bite my cheek and hold on until I agreed it was time to get up!

    "Agreed" to get up....or bullied into it by a fluffy terrorist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Not buying that. Cats interact with humans purely in the hope of receiving food. Cats are born predators who prey on humans just as they do on mice, except instead of torturing humans physically like they do to mice, they prey on their emotions. Anyone who cares for a cat can see the look of disdain in their eyes for humans. If cats were the size of Labradors, they'd be interacting with humans by trying to eat us! But that's what makes them a more interesting companion than a dog imo.

    Deciding to believe a pre-set mentlaity in the face of scientific eveidence - ah, creationaism!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Stigura wrote: »
    Please, Mods! Don't ban me for this. (I'll accept a red card :D) We're all adults, and just having the craic, right?

    Types%20of%20Cats_zps9rntg8aa.jpg


    LOL-1.gif


    Banned. :mad::mad:

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭Stigura


    Banned. :mad::mad:

    cats_zpslbkcujfd.jpg

    Nine out of ten cats disagree! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Deciding to believe a pre-set mentlaity in the face of scientific eveidence - ah, creationaism!
    It's nonscience! It's a causal relationship. Cats interact with humans as they know that's how to get food. And of course the more food they receive the more interaction there will be. Common sense. A cat's primary preference is and always will be food. They only needed to use milk and ham instead of chicken and tuna to realise that!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Pac1Man wrote: »
    I like cats. They're impressive. Pound for pound one of the best predators on the planet.
    Not so much in reality. They're pretty good, but unlike dogs and humans they won't go for prey bigger than they are. Show a hungry terrier an elephant and he'll look at you and think; "There's some eatin on that bugger, so I'm game if you are monkey boy", whereas a cat will think; "ehh... are you insane monkey boy". I'm not sure who is working the superior angle there. :D

    As for affection? I've known cats who were extremely affectionate and extremely protective towards the humans in their lives. Like "you wanna piss them off, you have to go through me *hiss, spit, bite*. And I've known dogs who were "meh, if you feed me we're good". Depends entirely on the cat or dog IMH. Further, IMHO it's more down to the human projection about the dog/cat that is telling.

    They have retractable claws!
    Cheetahs don't oddly enough.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    It's nonscience! It's a causal relationship. Cats interact with humans as they know that's how to get food. And of course the more food they receive the more interaction there will be. Common sense. A cat's primary preference is and always will be food. They only needed to use milk and ham instead of chicken and tuna to realise that!

    My cat won't take food off me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It's nonscience! It's a causal relationship. Cats interact with humans as they know that's how to get food. And of course the more food they receive the more interaction there will be. Common sense. A cat's primary preference is and always will be food. They only needed to use milk and ham instead of chicken and tuna to realise that!

    The same could be said of men interacting with women for sex, but sometimes men still love the women...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not so much in reality. They're pretty good, but unlike dogs and humans they won't go for prey bigger than they are. Show a hungry terrier an elephant and he'll look at you and think; "There's some eatin on that bugger, so I'm game if you are monkey boy", whereas a cat will think; "ehh... are you insane monkey boy". I'm not sure who is working the superior angle there.

    Thats not really making a claim for the dog here. From a cats point of view that's just stupid. Courageous and spirited but stupid all the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Cats take no sh!t, even if it will cost them their life some day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    What you get from cats depends on what you give them.. I am with mine 24/7 from their kittenhood and they are devoted and giving. No aloofness etc. No manipulation as they do not need to be like that.

    They are as affectionate as dogs and a lot calmer and more soothing to be with. ]

    How you treat them will create how they treat you..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    osarusan wrote: »
    Cats take no sh!t, even if it will cost them their life some day.


    There is also a video somewhere of a cat defending its young master against a dog..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,053 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    It's nonscience! It's a causal relationship. Cats interact with humans as they know that's how to get food. And of course the more food they receive the more interaction there will be. Common sense. A cat's primary preference is and always will be food. They only needed to use milk and ham instead of chicken and tuna to realise that!

    Load of bollox tbh. I've had cats all my life and they love attention without food and playing etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Your Face wrote: »
    Yeah but Donald Trump.

    I'm so, so lucky in relation to other people with that Trump thing. Because I'm pretty sure I'll never actually meet him.

    Which is fantastic. Really, really great.

    Anyway - back to cats. They are supuuurrrrb.

    The older they get the clingier they become. They fixate completely on their owners. It is true they are backstards but if you can see the funny side of it, then you truly are a cat person.

    I have a dog too though. Never see it as either/or.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    topper75 wrote: »
    I'm so, so lucky in relation to other people with that Trump thing. Because I'm pretty sure I'll never actually meet him.

    Which is fantastic. Really, really great.

    Anyway - back to cats. They are supuuurrrrb.

    The older they get the clingier they become. They fixate completely on their owners. It is true they are backstards but if you can see the funny side of it, then you truly are a cat person.

    I have a dog too though. Never see it as either/or.
    Don't get me wrong - I like dogs - ut dogs are like yor friend's kid who's got Downe's Syndrome. Lovely, sweet, little kid but would you give him the keys to drive home...?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm more of a dog person but recently I was seduced by a cat who'd lost his owner. He lavished love and attention on me until I made him permanent, now he doesn't just ignore me, he actively despises me and doesn't even try to hide it.

    All he cares about is food and sleep and his cold, black, spite. Everything he does is motivated by some kind of inner malicious spirit, and I'm pretty sure he isn't even going to wait until I die to start eating me. His name is Marvin, but he's only been called by his nickname (Assh*le) since the honeymoon is over. Other than the satanic possession issue, he's pretty cool.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Candie wrote: »
    I'm more of a dog person but recently I was seduced by a cat who'd lost his owner. He lavished love and attention on me until I made him permanent, now he doesn't just ignore me, he actively despises me and doesn't even try to hide it.

    All he cares about is food and sleep and his cold, black, spite. Everything he does is motivated by some kind of inner malicious spirit, and I'm pretty sure he isn't even going to wait until I die to start eating me. His name is Marvin, but he's only been called by his nickname (Assh*le) since the honeymoon is over. Other than the satanic possession issue, he's pretty cool.

    Old lady who died and was not found for days. and by then the cats had eaten her feet.... as the social worker said, she would not have minded...

    But my cats love me totally. No spite; I am one of them. totally and fully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,806 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Although there was clear individual variability in cat preference, social interaction with humans was the most-preferred stimulus category for the majority of cats, followed by food
    So you're saying that humans are good for cats, not that cats are good for humans.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Thats not really making a claim for the dog here. From a cats point of view that's just stupid. Courageous and spirited but stupid all the same.
    Maybe, but that's why every single civilisation worthy of the name had dogs and humans have had dogs around for tens of thousands of years. We quite literally wouldn't be human without them. Cats are much more of an afterthought in the the story. They did find favour in keeping rodents away from grain in farming civilisations, though even there dogs make better ratters. Though because of that "afterthought" in the modern western world cats fit in far better around many people's hectic schedules.
    Candie wrote: »
    I'm more of a dog person but recently I was seduced by a cat who'd lost his owner. He lavished love and attention on me until I made him permanent, now he doesn't just ignore me, he actively despises me and doesn't even try to hide it.
    Had similar last year. Cat showed up all whiny and plaintive. Gave it a bit of food and seemed to be fine and friendly, then after a while went a bit odd and twitchy. Hissed at me one day and then thought it would have a bit of a strop claws out time. In my gaff? Eh no. Shown the door and told to go away and to its credit it did.
    Don't get me wrong - I like dogs - ut dogs are like yor friend's kid who's got Downe's Syndrome. Lovely, sweet, little kid but would you give him the keys to drive home...?
    Yeah.

    :D

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