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Looking for a Cava-tzu puppy

  • 23-03-2017 2:17am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭


    As above really, im looking for a female cava-tzu puppy if anybody knows where there might be a litter ready to be homed at some stage soon.

    Much obliged


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    jimmyd87 wrote: »
    As above really, im looking for a female cava-tzu puppy if anybody knows where there might be a litter ready to be homed at some stage soon.

    Much obliged

    A what?

    There is no such breed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    jimmyd87 wrote: »
    As above really, im looking for a female cava-tzu puppy if anybody knows where there might be a litter ready to be homed at some stage soon.

    Much obliged

    Please think about what you want from a dog and what you are looking for.

    You're looking for a cross of 2 breeds, both with bracycephalic skulls to inhibit breathing. One is an unhealthy breed (Shih-Tzu) and the other is a REALLY unhealthy breed. The Cavalier King Charles can suffer from a painful disorder called syringomyelia because their brain is too big for their skull. And over 90% of the breed suffers from heart problems, notably mitral valve disease. That's before you take into account eye problems, ear problems and hip and knee problems.

    What you will find is that there are no breeders that will cross these dogs and health test their bitches and sires for any of the hereditary diseases. Good breeders don't cross their dogs and hope for the best, and I have to reiterate again - both breeds that you are looking for a cross of are not healthy dogs with a long lifespan so if you find somebody who has crossed these dogs, they are out to fleece you of your money, they'll show you a cute fluffy pup that will cost you many multiples of what you paid for it in veterinary fees. Buyer Beware.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Bunnyslippers


    Agree with the above totally, if you're looking for a mixed breed dog then your local rescue will be the best port of call, there are so many unwanted pups at the mo, especially from puppy farmers and the like who are the ones who would be breeding crossbreds like the one you have mentioned. Don't go directly to them and line their pockets, support a rescue instead and help stop making it profitable for these back yard breeders to keep breeding! But if you do go for a mix with these breeds in it make sure you have pet insurance!:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    The biggest problem with the Shih-tzu is the breathing problems with the bracycephalic skull right?

    Genuine question then, if one is bred with a dog that has a long nose would you expect the resultant pups to have less of an issue? I ask because I have a Shih-tzu mixed with a poodle and she seems to have a very long nose more like the poodle. On walks she never seems to have breathing troubles and wouldn't even usually have her mouth open to breath until we're almost home and she's a bit more tired. Would that be more good luck or something that is generally expected when you have a long and a short nose pair?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,763 ✭✭✭Knine


    Jayop wrote: »
    The biggest problem with the Shih-tzu is the breathing problems with the bracycephalic skull right?

    Genuine question then, if one is bred with a dog that has a long nose would you expect the resultant pups to have less of an issue? I ask because I have a Shih-tzu mixed with a poodle and she seems to have a very long nose more like the poodle. On walks she never seems to have breathing troubles and wouldn't even usually have her mouth open to breath until we're almost home and she's a bit more tired. Would that be more good luck or something that is generally expected when you have a long and a short nose pair?

    It is a matter of luck what you get. More often you get dogs with mixed jaw sizes & then some major bite/teeth issues hence reputable breeders only breed dogs with correct breed specific bites.

    I have seen one of my own breeds mixed with pugs - they had terrier active minds but with the pug breathing issues & short legs which meant very unhappy dogs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭percy212


    I am looking for the OP so that I can knock some sense into them. A what? Go to your local pound and save a dog.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    percy212 wrote: »
    I am looking for the OP so that I can knock some sense into them. A what? Go to your local pound and save a dog.

    Ah come on... Do you really think this style of addressing the op is really going to inspire them? It's more likely to send them running away.
    I think it'd be far more constructive to give the op meaningful advice, and to do so with a bit of respect, so that they can make a considered and educated choice. Knine and blm have given excellent advice above... Cute the cava-tzu might be, but the op may now reconsider their choice now that they've been politely advised of the serious consequences of crossing one brachycephalic breed to another.
    But telling them you're going to knock some sense into them? More likely to anger them or humiliate them... As they beat a path to a cava-tzu breeder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Knine wrote: »
    It is a matter of luck what you get. More often you get dogs with mixed jaw sizes & then some major bite/teeth issues hence reputable breeders only breed dogs with correct breed specific bites.

    I have seen one of my own breeds mixed with pugs - they had terrier active minds but with the pug breathing issues & short legs which meant very unhappy dogs.

    Aye luck is more likely. We're blessed with ours, but we knew the nose was long when we got her. She's a weird mix, poodle curly dark hair, long poodle nose, smart like a poodle but completely self aware and cheeky like a shih-tzu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I have a mixed breed; rescue and accidental. The mother was JRT and dumped when in pup. Took a while to see that the other part was bassett hound.

    A terrible mix temperament wise. She has the energy of the JRT with the weight of the bassett and is emotional in the extreme. Very excitable

    Bounces still at 10 years and can put on the bassett face and eyes for the sllghtest reason.

    Thankfully healthy but it is a lucky dip .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭percy212


    OP, why do you want a female pup? Are you considering breeding these dogs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    percy212 wrote: »
    OP, why do you want a female pup? Are you considering breeding these dogs?

    A man used to come to my market stall with a dog crossed between a poodle and a spaniel. He said he was not getting her spayed as he "wanted to breed her to see how the puppies turned out.."


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