State examinations jobs

mufc1993

Hi

I'm currently a student teacher in the first year of my 2 year PME. Just wondering about the state exams in June, am I eligible to be considered for any jobs? Supervising, correcting etc.?

happywithlife

Certainly for superintendent and maybe correcting if some stories are to be believed- however you've missed the deadlines for both as far as I know. Although it may be worthwhile ringing to see if it's not too late to apply

spurious

Applications had to be in around Hallowe'en and some appointments have already been made.
No harm throw in a late application.

2xj3hplqgsbkym

It's not too late to apply. SEC sent email to all schools today looking for more people to apply.

evolving_doors

https://www.examinations.ie/recruitment/

mtoutlemonde

spurious wrote: »

Applications had to be in around Hallowe'en and some appointments have already been made.
No harm throw in a late application.

'Applications still invited' on website - I think anyone with a pulse and a Teaching Council number will be considered for some jobs. I forgot that a TC number is required so the OP 'may' not be able to apply but could ring to enquire anyway. Best of luck.

Crazyteacher

You could get examining without being registered with the teaching council. Ignore the deadline dates and throw in applications for both.
It's only superintending that needs registration because of the contact with students and Garda vetting. You could also check in with schools to see if they need readers or scribes for the exams. Pay is similar to superintending .

mufc1993

Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated.

I don't have a TC number yet, I should probably apply for one now with that FE-01 form, anyone know how long that takes to go through?

Anyone with experience in any of the jobs want to advise me what is involved? And what the pay is like?

sitstill

Received this email last week:

Urgent
 
Certificate Examinations 2017; Superintendent posts
 
Dear Principal,
 
The State Examinations Commission (SEC) is currently processing applications for Superintendents for the 2017 State Examination. The SEC is anxious to ensure that there is a sufficient quantity of suitable applicants to meet the demands for superintendent positions in the 2017 examinations. 
 
In this regard we are contacting Schools across the State and asking them to inform potential applicants that they may still apply for consideration for superintending in the 2017 Examinations. Although at this time applications received will only be considered for our reserve list it is possible that an appointment could very well result.
 
Applications and further details are available in the recruitment section of the SEC website www.examinations.ie 
 
You are requested to actively encourage suitably qualified people i.e. serving, substitute, unemployed and/or retired teachers who would have had contact with your school.
 
Thank you for your support and co-operation in his matter.   
 
Yours Sincerely
 
 
Superintendent Section

So definitely worth your while in applying.

Thunderbirds

I applied for correcting. Have heard nothing yet. Does anyone know if they've contacted potential correctors or when should I expect to hear from SEC?

mtoutlemonde

Thunderbirds wrote: »

I applied for correcting. Have heard nothing yet. Does anyone know if they've contacted potential correctors or when should I expect to hear from SEC?

Sorry reading your post again as crazyteacher has said - you should have found out by now. I read it incorrectly and mixed it up with superintendenting.

Crazyteacher

Thunderbirds wrote: »

I applied for correcting. Have heard nothing yet. Does anyone know if they've contacted potential correctors or when should I expect to hear from SEC?

Correctors or examiners should have heard by now depending on their subjects. Otherwise you would have got a letter saying you were on the drop out list. Give the SEC examiners section a phone call and they'll tell you 090-6442734

mufc1993

I got offered an examiner job today so it seems they are still being given out!

Crazyteacher

Yeah and they'll continue making offers up until the exams/corrections start.

Terri26

Lots of correcting work still available. Unfortunately if you have full hours the amount your taxed means it's barely worth it. On the other hand it is fantastic for your teaching. As a student teacher it will definitely be worth it financially but be under no allusion, it is difficult work.

mufc1993

Got offered JC Business Studies HL Paper 2. Anyone have any experience with this know what sort of time it will take? Think you get around 400 scripts.

mtoutlemonde

mufc1993 wrote: »

Got offered JC Business Studies HL Paper 2. Anyone have any experience with this know what sort of time it will take? Think you get around 400 scripts.

It should be in your letter of confirmation.

Crazyteacher

It's normally 28 days for everyone?

deiseindublin

26 days, not including the conference afair.

mufc1993

Sorry I should have been more specific, I meant would your full day be taken up with the work?

Crazyteacher

It honestly will. Be prepared for a full day 9-6. Longer with paper work and phone calls from your advising examiner added in. The best way is to always work ahead of the deadlines, rise early to get finished earlier in day . The more you work ahead the more you can take an evening at the cinema /job interviews etc.

mufc1993

Oh right. Wasn't expecting that, especially for JC! I've already got a job for the summer but was thinking of trying to do this along with it in evenings and weekends, would that be a no go?

Bean Scoile

mufc1993 wrote: »

Oh right. Wasn't expecting that, especially for JC! I've already got a job for the summer but was thinking of trying to do this along with it in evenings and weekends, would that be a no go?

I think you would find it difficult to do it evenings and weekends. It's a full time job. That means 8 hours a day, minimum.

Why would it make a difference whether it's junior or leaving cert?

Crazyteacher

Maybe the op is thinking that Junior cert papers are not long as in terms of correction than a leaving cert paper.

Mufc, they do advertise it as a full time job . It would be quite challenging especially as it's your first year. It's up to you but be warned.

mufc1993

Yeah that's what I mean, it would be short in comparison to the LC Business corrections.

Thanks folks, I'll have to have a rethink so!

Bean Scoile

mufc1993 wrote: »

Yeah that's what I mean, it would be short in comparison to the LC Business corrections.

Thanks folks, I'll have to have a rethink so!

The exam itself is shorter, but as a corrector you will get more of them to correct than a leaving cert corrector, so it all balances out. It's a full time job either way.

Crazyteacher

Hope we didn't put you off. If you do change your mind,move quickly with letting the SEC know. Sent you a message.

mtoutlemonde

mufc1993 wrote: »

Oh right. Wasn't expecting that, especially for JC! I've already got a job for the summer but was thinking of trying to do this along with it in evenings and weekends, would that be a no go?

Honestly after a day correcting with added phone calls and trips (and maybe several) trips to the post office - you won't have the energy for anything else.

You have to be available to your advising examiner at all times (nearly) during the marking period. It is also stated in your appointment letter that you have to commit to correcting during the correcting period otherwise marking won't be up to scratch - remarking - delays - nightmare.

If you are unsure, weigh up which will be more beneficial and go with it but you won't be able to do both. If not correcting, get onto SEC straightaway and let them know.

spurious

The first couple of weeks, where the deadlines are very short and you're still getting the marking scheme into your head are very tight. I couldn't imagine trying to do it along with another job.

Dunne_bkill

Sorry to be bumping an old thread but just a quick question.

I'm a 4th year student teacher who has been offered to examine <a subject> for the coming state examinations. Fairly stupid question but does this mean I am correcting this paper?? It says "Grade: Examiner" on the letter I have received.

I am not registered with the Teaching Council yet but I applied for the position of written examiner and this is what I have received back.

Thanks.

evolving_doors

Dunne_bkill wrote: »

Sorry to be bumping an old thread but just a quick question.

I'm a 4th year student teacher who has been offered to examine higher level junior cert history paper 1 for the coming state examinations. Fairly stupid question but does this mean I am correcting this paper?? It says "Grade: Examiner" on the letter I have received.

I am not registered with the Teaching Council yet but I applied for the position of written examiner and this is what I have received back.

Thanks.

Yes
Congratulations
Make sure to cancel the whole month of July and find a spare room to lock yourself into.

Enjoy:pac:

Dunne_bkill

evolving_doors wrote: »

Yes
Congratulations
Make sure to cancel the whole month of July and find a spare room to lock yourself into.

Enjoy:pac:

Thank you. Sounds great!

Doesn't look good for the system when an unqualified teacher is correcting JC exam papers. I'll take the necessary steps to assure I'm competent to correct these papers (I assume there will be a meeting about the marking scheme?!) but for all the SEC know I could be anyone.

Are there any more details I should know? How many scripts will I get? Deadlines? Pay? Etc. Any responses are appreciated.

spurious

Dunne_bkill wrote: »

Are there any more details I should know? How many scripts will I get? Deadlines? Pay? Etc. Any responses are appreciated.

As a first-timer, I reckon you'd get around the 350 papers mark.
Your meeting will probably be on a Friday, going on memory from when I used to do Edit :<the same subject and level as you>. They will want the sample 20 done by Sunday or so (and rung in to your supervisor) and in the post Monday. The first 100 could be due Wed or Thurs of that first week, with the second 100 maybe the following Monday or Tuesday. You will be given your dates at the meeting and while there are sometimes changes, they generally stick to the timetable. Whatever you do, if you think you are not going to make a deadline, ring your supervisor. Let them know what is going on.

I advise you to do all your unpacking, numbering and checking the evening you get back from Athlone, so that 8am the first day you can start the correcting.

evolving_doors

Dunne_bkill wrote: »

Thank you. Sounds great!

Doesn't look good for the system when an unqualified teacher is correcting JC exam papers. I'll take the necessary steps to assure I'm competent to correct these papers (I assume there will be a meeting about the marking scheme?!) but for all the SEC know I could be anyone.

Are there any more details I should know? How many scripts will I get? Deadlines? Pay? Etc. Any responses are appreciated.

They changed the requirements so you don't have to be teaching council registered... I think. Check the recruitment blurb on examinations.ie again.

Yes there will be a correctors conference when the exam is over... around end of June.
You'll need some way of collecting the postbags of scripts and bring them to your home... and keep them safe.

During the conference you'll get a handbook. Read this like crazy a million times.
It's handy to have a notebook to keep track of questions or scripts that concern you.
Be patient with your supervisor ... They will assume you know everything and at the end of the phone 24/7.
Find a friendly -experienced looking- face in your group at the marking conference and get their email or phone number. This is handy if your supervisor is unavailable or it's a very minor question.

Pay... can't remember but per paper I'd imagine it'd be about €7 ... with possibly 350 papers..then expenses on top. You'll get an advance of about 400... but after that it won't be for another 2 months odd until you get the balance. Ring revenue about tax etc so your not put on emergency tax.. the SEC employer number should be in the handbook!

If you're like me first time you'll make a tonne of silly mistakes but the advising examiner should have an idea when you submit your first sample corrections. Have a calculator handy and double check everything.

It might be a good idea to familiarise yourself with the paper the day after the students sit the exam and it goes up on examinations.ie . A lot of the other examiners will have looked at it and spotted potential 'errors' ... it's nice to look up to speed during the conferences. Read the subject syllabus too if you want to be extra nerdy. Have a look at old marking schemes to to get the jist.

You're not supposed to identify yourself as a corrector on social media so i might just delete your subject above as there mightnt be many PME people employed.

Dunne_bkill

Thanks for the great replies. Good information there.

Just a couple of final things, how long does the process usually Take? 3/4 weeks?? Also, I have applied for the position of scribe in the school I am on placement in, I assume it's still possible for me to fulfil this position if I'm offered it?

Thanks again.

Exiled1

The marking process usually takes 26 days in total.
Posts 33/34 offer excellent advice.
Apart from the money, the experience will be very good for your teaching.
Also it will look well on your cv.
At interview be sure to refer to having been an examiner and specify one or two significant things you have learned from the experience.
Every teacher should correct JC/LC at least once. The knowledge cannot be gained from reading the marking scheme and your students will be much better for your experience.
Cant' say 'enjoy' but good luck.

evolving_doors

I don't think the scribe work during exams and the conference day would ever overlap.

rainbowtrout

Dunne_bkill wrote: »

Thanks for the great replies. Good information there.

Just a couple of final things, how long does the process usually Take? 3/4 weeks?? Also, I have applied for the position of scribe in the school I am on placement in, I assume it's still possible for me to fulfil this position if I'm offered it?

Thanks again.

Yes you will be able to do both.

Dunne_bkill

Exiled1 wrote:

The marking process usually takes 26 days in total. Posts 33/34 offer excellent advice. Apart from the money, the experience will be very good for your teaching. Also it will look well on your cv. At interview be sure to refer to having been an examiner and specify one or two significant things you have learned from the experience. Every teacher should correct JC/LC at least once. The knowledge cannot be gained from reading the marking scheme and your students will be much better for your experience. Cant' say 'enjoy' but good luck.

Thank you, appreciated.