Removing a stanley oil range

Itsdacraic

Currently doing a bit of renovating and have an old Stanley Comeragh 90 Range. It's oil fired and the boiler obviously controls the heating for rads, water etc. The range is going on 20 years old (at least) and trying to accommodate into the new kitchen layout is a bit of a pain. It's too inefficient for cooking, so will still need an oven and hob in the kitchen.

Would it be stupid to get rid of the range, replace it with an outside boiler and then buy an electric / gas range oven/hob combo?

Any ideas what it would cost to get an outside boiler installed?

monseiur

Firstly I agree that these Stanley Oil Ranges are not fit for purpose - if your budget allows fit a decent quality electric or gas oven/hob or a combination of both, electric oven & gas hob - there's a wide selection available.
Re. central heating : As you will have the oil supply, chimney/flue, central heating pipes etc in situ after removing the range - to save some cash you should consider fitting an indoor model Grant Vortex or Firebird Enviormax boiler. Any of these can be integrated into your new kitchen design and are designed to fit under kitchen worktop. Also they are acoustically designed for quiet operation but realistically you will have to tolerate a certain amount of noise and oil fumes occasionally when bleeding, servicing etc.
The above would save some money but ideally the best location for an oil boiler is it's own dedicated, dry, well insulated boiler house.

M.

Itsdacraic

Thanks for that.
Would you have a ball park on how much one of those indoor boilers would cost?

Tom44

I personally dislike indoor boiler's due to the mess if they soot up.
I always recommend ones in a shed preferable or in its own galvanized outdoor hut, servicing on a rainy day is not always possible.

Boiler in kitchen might be more expensive as you'll have to reline chimney with expensive manafactures waterproof flue liner. And you have to also remember that you have to have a condensation (water) drain pipe.

monseiur

Itsdacraic wrote: »

Thanks for that.
Would you have a ball park on how much one of those indoor boilers would cost?

Cost would be €1200 to €1400 approx. depending on which model, KW etc you go for. but your plumber may get one cheaper. But as I stated previously the kitchen is not an ideal place for an oil boiler - if budget allows build a small boiler house at back, as close as possible to house, open trench in floor in kitchen to connect pipes to existing central heating pipes etc. As you are upgrading kitchen this trench can be along wall under units etc. all this of course is assuming that kitchen is located at back of house.
M.

Tom44

Itsdacraic wrote: »

Thanks for that.
Would you have a ball park on how much one of those indoor boilers would cost?

You'll have to get plumber to call out for advice & prices.

Price quoted above does not reflect that with flue, pump, controls, pipe and fittings, the material alone could be hitting the 2k mark. Before you even add labour.
Low level flue €140, vertical flue could be €400+ (And extra labour)
See what I mean?

Simpler just to get 3 quotes and 3 opinions by calling out somebody.
It will be more accurate and free.

ps.
Do offer coffee. 👍

Itsdacraic

Tom44 wrote: »

You'll have to get plumber to call out for advice & prices.

Price quoted above does not reflect that with flue, pump, controls, pipe and fittings, the material alone could be hitting the 2k mark. Before you even add labour.
Low level flue €140, vertical flue could be €400+ (And extra labour)
See what I mean?

Simpler just to get 3 quotes and 3 opinions by calling out somebody.
It will be more accurate and free.

ps.
Do offer coffee. 👍

I can't even offer electricity at the moment

monseiur

Tom44 wrote: »

You'll have to get plumber to call out for advice & prices.

Price quoted above does not reflect that with flue, pump, controls, pipe and fittings, the material alone could be hitting the 2k mark. Before you even add labour.
Low level flue €140, vertical flue could be €400+ (And extra labour)
See what I mean?

Simpler just to get 3 quotes and 3 opinions by calling out somebody.
It will be more accurate and free.

ps.
Do offer coffee. ��

The price I quoted was for the indoor boiler only of course fitting etc. would be extra. As an aside, I assume, as the OP has an oil Stanley at the moment there's a vertical stainless steel flue fitted.......but you know what they say about assumptions......!

Itsdacraic

monseiur wrote: »

The price I quoted was for the indoor boiler only of course fitting etc. would be extra. As an aside, I assume, as the OP has an oil Stanley at the moment there's a vertical stainless steel flue fitted.......but you know what they say about assumptions......!

There will be a plumber there doing a few other bits over the next few weeks so I can run it all by him and get his opinion. Cheers for the advice.

Tom44

monseiur wrote: »

The price I quoted was for the indoor boiler only of course fitting etc. would be extra. As an aside, I assume, as the OP has an oil Stanley at the moment there's a vertical stainless steel flue fitted.......but you know what they say about assumptions......!

No problem monseiur

A special waterproof flue is required for condensing, existing stainless steel one, if there's one, is not suitable for condensing boilers.
Thats if going up existing chimney.

FrostyKK

Will you not miss the shear comfort of a genuine cast iron range in the kitchen. You can have all your electric range cookers, and efficient condensing boilers, but there is no where better to park your backside on a miserable wintery day than a nice Stanley in the kitchen!!

I write this because we may soon have the same dilemma with our own stanley and we would really miss it, if it has to go. It does depend on how you live in your kitchen though as it does lose a lot of heat to the kitchen itself.

Dtp1979

FrostyKK wrote: »

Will you not miss the shear comfort of a genuine cast iron range in the kitchen. You can have all your electric range cookers, and efficient condensing boilers, but there is no where better to park your backside on a miserable wintery day than a nice Stanley in the kitchen!!

I write this because we may soon have the same dilemma with our own stanley and we would really miss it, if it has to go. It does depend on how you live in your kitchen though as it does lose a lot of heat to the kitchen itself.

Stanley cookers are inefficient, pigs to work on, overpriced decorative lumps plonked in kitchens for years.

monseiur

FrostyKK wrote: »

Will you not miss the shear comfort of a genuine cast iron range in the kitchen. You can have all your electric range cookers, and efficient condensing boilers, but there is no where better to park your backside on a miserable wintery day than a nice Stanley in the kitchen!!

I write this because we may soon have the same dilemma with our own stanley and we would really miss it, if it has to go. It does depend on how you live in your kitchen though as it does lose a lot of heat to the kitchen itself.

An option would be to replace your Stanley oil boiler with a smaller solid fuel multi fuel one (that burns either coal, wood, turf etc.) There is very good selection available in both Stanley and various other makes & models, some come with a back boiler (to heat domestic water only)
M.

Sam Kade

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Stanley cookers are inefficient, pigs to work on, overpriced decorative lumps plonked in kitchens for years.

I have to agree, I had an oil fired stanley cooker up to a few years ago. It was 14 years old when I got rid of it, cost over 3k punts new and was well looked after serviced every year. The man that took it out said that it was the freshest one he's seen. However it wasn't throwing out as much heat as when new, it turned out that the new owner had to spend 1.5k on it for internal repairs.

Living Off The Splash

I have a Stanley Super Star, 80,000 BTU's in my kitchen. It works off gas. It provides us with some cooking but is mainly used for our central heating boiler. It's about 25 years old.

I want it taken out and replaced with a new gas boiler. Do you think that I could use the existing pipework from the Stanley and connect it to the new gas boiler?

Do old Stanley cookers such as the Super Star have a second hand value?

Dtp1979

You’d be lucky if you don’t have to pay someone to take the cooker away stick it on DoneDeal, you might get lucky. I don’t know who’d every fit one as they were a disaster of a cooker and they’re d an inefficient and no RGI will fit a secondhand cooker unless they rock up on a horse.

The only person who can give you an opinion on the existing gas pipe would be an RGI.