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Opinions that are wrong

  • 17-03-2017 10:57am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭


    I was having a conversation with one of the lads the other day, and it got me thinking. We were arguing over an opinion. He was stating that it's an opinion and he can't be wrong because of an opinion. But his opinion was that a cheap mint aero-type bar tasted the same as a proper mint Aero. I cannot see how that can be right, because they didn't even taste similar, they tasted completely different, so his "opinion" is wrong.

    So, are there any opinions that you think are wrong? I don't mean actual opinions, where it is open to interpretation. I mean when someone says something and no amount of "opinion" can change the fact that they are wrong. Like the following which i believe are wrong opinions:

    Pepsi and Coca Cola taste the same - No, no they do not.
    Dairygold and Kerrygold taste the same - Again, no, far from the truth.
    There's no difference between Barrys and Lyons - So wrong, Barrys is muck.

    Actually, they all seem to be taste based... :confused:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Diet Coke tastes like licking a two pence coin.

    Source : Have licked two pence coin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    do you eat with their taste buds? maybe it tastes the same to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    I was having a conversation with one of the lads the other day, and it got me thinking. We were arguing over an opinion. He was stating that it's an opinion and he can't be wrong because of an opinion. But his opinion was that a cheap mint aero-type bar tasted the same as a proper mint Aero. I cannot see how that can be right, because they didn't even taste similar, they tasted completely different, so his "opinion" is wrong.

    So, are there any opinions that you think are wrong? I don't mean actual opinions, where it is open to interpretation. I mean when someone says something and no amount of "opinion" can change the fact that they are wrong. Like the following which i believe are wrong opinions:

    Pepsi and Coca Cola taste the same - No, no they do not.
    Dairygold and Kerrygold taste the same - Again, no, far from the truth.
    There's no difference between Barrys and Lyons - So wrong, Barrys is muck.

    Actually, they all seem to be taste based... :confused:

    You realise this is the only part of the OP that will gain any traction in this thread now, right?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    There's no difference between Barrys and Lyons - So wrong, Barrys is muck.

    Stop drinking that pisswater Lyons for a while to let your tastebuds grow back and you'll feel differently about Barry's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Stop drinking that pisswater Lyons for a while to let your tastebuds grow back and you'll feel differently about Barry's.

    Bah, feck Barrys and they're badly shaped teabags, it's all about the Pyramid kiiid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    They only taste different to you. If he thinks they are the same then he is right. .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Lyons has 0 to do with Ireland now. Packaged by unilever in Manchester. As Irish as Manchester United!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Bah, feck Barrys and they're badly shaped teabags, it's all about the Pyramid kiiid!

    Pyramids make feck all diferrence. If you're looking for good teabag design then just get Tetley :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    It's a subjective opinion, more of a preference really, so he is right.

    If his opinion is based on fact, then he would be wrong. For example if he said that Leitrim are traditionally a better team than Kerry in football he would be wrong.

    But if he was to say it's his opinion that strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate, then that's his subjective opinion and he's right as far as his preferences are concerned.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    'The food in Lidl and Aldi is muck'.

    'Everybody wants to live in Dublin'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Pyramids make feck all diferrence. If you're looking for good teabag design then just get Tetley :P

    I would rather drink stale urine than that pisss Tetley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,382 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Red Kev wrote: »
    It's a subjective opinion, more of a preference really, so he is right.

    If his opinion is based on fact, then he would be wrong. For example if he said that Leitrim are traditionally a better team than Kerry in football he would be wrong.

    But if he was to say it's his opinion that strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate, then that's his subjective opinion and he's right as far as his preferences are concerned.

    But can taste vary that much? Can someone really say that Coke and Pepsi taste the same? The same lad goes on about the subtle flavours on fancy dishes, but still insists that the cheap Aero tasted the exact same as the Nestle one, and it just doesn't!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭764dak


    Red Kev wrote: »
    It's a subjective opinion, more of a preference really, so he is right.

    If his opinion is based on fact, then he would be wrong. For example if he said that Leitrim are traditionally a better team than Kerry in football he would be wrong.

    But if he was to say it's his opinion that strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate, then that's his subjective opinion and he's right as far as his preferences are concerned.

    Subjective opinion is a redundant phrase. And that's a fact.

    The main problem is people don't know when to distinguish opinions from facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    An opinion is just a small experience sample from that person's viewpoint.
    How can you say what other people should feel/think. You cannot.

    People have different opinions, it diversifies life - it'd be great but pretty boring if everyone thought the same way as me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭soups05


    764dak wrote: »
    Subjective opinion is a redundant phrase. And that's a fact.

    The main problem is people don't know when to distinguish opinions from facts.

    Exactly, everyone knows that Lyons is the best tea





    :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I would rather drink stale urine than that pisss Tetley.

    Is this just because it's a protestant tea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    764dak wrote: »
    The main problem is people don't know when to distinguish opinions from facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I was having a conversation with one of the lads the other day, and it got me thinking. We were arguing over an opinion. He was stating that it's an opinion and he can't be wrong because of an opinion. But his opinion was that a cheap mint aero-type bar tasted the same as a proper mint Aero. I cannot see how that can be right, because they didn't even taste similar, they tasted completely different, so his "opinion" is wrong.

    So, are there any opinions that you think are wrong? I don't mean actual opinions, where it is open to interpretation. I mean when someone says something and no amount of "opinion" can change the fact that they are wrong. Like the following which i believe are wrong opinions:

    Pepsi and Coca Cola taste the same - No, no they do not.
    Dairygold and Kerrygold taste the same - Again, no, far from the truth.
    There's no difference between Barrys and Lyons - So wrong, Barrys is muck.

    Actually, they all seem to be taste based... :confused:

    So you're essentially saying that taste is opinion?
    Taste is an highly individual sensation, it's practically impossible to experience someone else's sense of taste. Your opinion that other people's sense of taste is wrong is just wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭KarmaGarda


    No no, you have it all wrong (in my opinion). This guy's opinion is this:
    ... a cheap mint aero-type bar tasted the same as a proper mint Aero.

    Now, you see, there's a flaw... if he had instead said
    a cheap mint aero-type bar tastes the same to me as a proper mint Aero

    He'd be bang on. Can't argue with that. But he fckuked up by not structuring his claim properly. So I can say NO! You're bloody wrong mate! Cos you can't generalise taste with a over-reaching statement like that. If we ran a survey across 100 people and X people say the bloody things taste different then you're wrong!

    So there you have it. He's wrong. Like all of you. Apart from the OP. And me of course. In my opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Jockeys don't make a difference it's all about the horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭DanMurphy


    Teabags most likely contain the waste & floor sweepings after the real (loose) tea is packaged.
    Brilliant idea and a promotion for the worker that thought of it first day.
    I'd say he doubled the income of the tea importers.
    Tea bags my arse.
    Real tea for real tea drinkers comes in loose packages, that's why there's strainers in tea pots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.

    Some even have 2.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    DanMurphy wrote: »
    Teabags most likely contain the waste & floor sweepings after the real (loose) tea is packaged.
    Brilliant idea and a promotion for the worker that thought of it first day.
    I'd say he doubled the income of the tea importers.
    Tea bags my arse.
    Real tea for real tea drinkers comes in loose packages, that's why there's strainers in tea pots.

    You want someone to tea bag your arse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    If the OP's friend is a smoker then everything tastes the same to him, Mint aero probably tastes the same as cheese and onion crisps so in that case his opinion is correct and yours is also correct. Imagine that, two people with different but correct opinions.


    The world is going to explode.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,352 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    DanMurphy wrote: »
    Teabags most likely contain the waste & floor sweepings after the real (loose) tea is packaged.
    Brilliant idea and a promotion for the worker that thought of it first day.
    I'd say he doubled the income of the tea importers.
    Tea bags my arse.
    Real tea for real tea drinkers comes in loose packages, that's why there's strainers in tea pots.

    Similarly white chocolate is just the crap they have left over after they make real chocolate. Whoever came up with the idea of marketing it as actual chocolate was a genius, although the world has no actual need for their "invention".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭DanMurphy


    You want someone to tea bag your arse?

    Interested in arses now, are we?
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    "The Beatles were no good"

    WRONG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭carrieb


    Mmmmm mint aeros. Haven't had one in years. Totally buying one today.

    Seriously though, surely it's down to individual taste buds?! I mean one can't know what something tastes like to someone else. Like if this dude is a smoker or has any nasal issues he may well taste mint, chocolate and think everything mint and chocolate tastes the same.

    Totally wrong obvs but maybe not to him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    The opinion that is wrong is the assertion that these things taste the same.

    They don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    DanMurphy wrote: »
    Teabags most likely contain the waste & floor sweepings after the real (loose) tea is packaged.
    Brilliant idea and a promotion for the worker that thought of it first day.
    I'd say he doubled the income of the tea importers.
    Tea bags my arse.
    Real tea for real tea drinkers comes in loose packages, that's why there's strainers in tea pots.

    Counterpoint - All tea is sh*te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭Bredabe


    I love the way on social media I say IN MY EXPERIENCE this or that happenes, and someone else says YOU ARE WRONG! and tried to contradict everything I say. How does this work when they are NOT me?

    "Have you ever wagged your tail so hard you fell over"?-Brod Higgins.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    If the OP's friend is a smoker then everything tastes the same to him.

    Your opinion is wrong there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭PhuckHugh


    An opinion is never wrong, just ill-informed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    Everyone can have an opinion, even if its a **** one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,633 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    "It's ok to drive on a learner licence on my own as it's not my first"

    I hear that so often and it's just wrong. System should be scrapped and only driving with a qualified instructor allowed until you pass your test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    The earth is flat. The Government is controlling us via 'chemtrails'. Bush 'did' 9/11.

    Those are seriously disturbing and very wrong opinions.

    Not too horrified that someone thinks Lidl's version of Aero tastes like the real deal. I'm sure they're close enough that some will and some won't.

    Some people think that Coke and Pepsi taste similar, despite Pepsi's unique taste and obvious superiority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    Anti-vaxxers...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Bredabe wrote: »
    I love the way on social media I say IN MY EXPERIENCE this or that happenes, and someone else says YOU ARE WRONG! and tried to contradict everything I say. How does this work when they are NOT me?

    That never happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    "Sure its just a bunch of cells really".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    People telling you that you're full of sh1t is an attack of your 'free speech'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    Well with taste, people's palettes differ so things that taste the same to one person might taste different to another.

    And a lot of things are even more subjective than that again. Is there anything worse or more childish than a person shutting someone else down with a " Yeah well your opinion is wrong!"? Demonstrate why it's wrong, form an argument, don't just tell someone their opinion is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭Bredabe


    Glenster wrote: »
    That never happens
    I see what your doing there, lololol :mad:

    "Have you ever wagged your tail so hard you fell over"?-Brod Higgins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭764dak


    The earth is flat. The Government is controlling us via 'chemtrails'. Bush 'did' 9/11.

    Those are seriously disturbing and very wrong opinions.

    Not too horrified that someone thinks Lidl's version of Aero tastes like the real deal. I'm sure they're close enough that some will and some won't.

    Some people think that Coke and Pepsi taste similar, despite Pepsi's unique taste and obvious superiority.

    Same and similar do not mean the same thing. Similarity can be subjective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭764dak


    __Alex__ wrote: »
    Well with taste, people's palettes differ so things that taste the same to one person might taste different to another.

    And a lot of things are even more subjective than that again. Is there anything worse or more childish than a person shutting someone else down with a " Yeah well your opinion is wrong!"? Demonstrate why it's wrong, form an argument, don't just tell someone their opinion is wrong.

    I think you mean "things that taste similar to one person."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    764dak wrote: »
    I think you mean "things that taste similar to one person."

    No, I meant what I wrote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Red Kev wrote: »
    It's a subjective opinion, more of a preference really, so he is right.

    If his opinion is based on fact, then he would be wrong. For example if he said that Leitrim are traditionally a better team than Kerry in football he would be wrong.

    But if he was to say it's his opinion that strawberry ice cream is better than chocolate, then that's his subjective opinion and he's right as far as his preferences are concerned.

    I think this is a good post. Sometimes you can make a good argument against an opinion.

    But sometimes, no matter how wrong you think they are, there's really no way to argue with them. There is nothing to say except 'You're wrong.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Anyone that prefers Pepsi to Coke is not to be trusted

    They probably preferred Blur too...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    As a mate of mine once said to someone he disagreed with..'you're entitled to be wrong'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 343 ✭✭Amy33


    The other woman is to blame when a man cheats on his wife.


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