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Looking for a sample microchip number for a dog

  • 15-03-2017 10:03am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    Hey guys,

    Does anybody have a sample microchip number that I could use to see what kind of information is available for it in the public database? I'm working on a kennel administration software as part of a group project and we need to look at valid microchips for taking dogs in.

    Any leads would be appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    Transponders permanently identify the animal with a 15 digit worldwide unique microchip number. The microchip according to ISO 11784 does not contain any other information.

    Radio frequency identification of animals -- Code structure: https://www.iso.org/standard/25881.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_11784_%26_11785

    When your pet is microchipped, it is of essential need that you register your pet in a database, ideally in a database which is member of EPN as then your pet is as well safely registered travelling abroad. Your name, home address, phone numbers and email address are submitted. Your pet’s name, breed, sex, special markings or colouring will be registered as well. Some databases recommend the submission of a photograph
    I don’t remember which database my pet’s transponder is registered in. How can I find out?

    Type your pet’s microchip number into Europetnet’s ID search engine. It will inform you of the database company’s name and contact information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dumbnoodle30


    I'm aware of Europetnet, our goal was to obtain a microchip number (even a dummy one if at all possible) to see if we can query the database to check for the microchip number's validity. This would have to be done to ensure that the kennel is only boarding legally microchipped dogs.

    Looking at the information you've provided me with, I can see that newly microchipped dogs are not automatically added to a database... This means that we cannot simply query Europenet, but rather we'd have to leave it up to the kennel staff themselves to scan the chips to confirm that the dog is legal.

    Since it seems to be up the the owner to register a dog, we'll probably skip this kind of integration in our application and just take the microchip number for granted.

    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    Are pets microchips added to ANY central national database at all? I always assumed that they went into at least a govt level national DB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭beazee


    FIDO.IE carried out all the registrations pre-2016.
    Microchipping at the vet's office came with filling out the registration form for FIDO.IE
    Vet charge included the microchip and registration fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    beazee wrote: »
    FIDO.IE carried out all the registrations pre-2016.
    Microchipping at the vet's office came with filling out the registration form for FIDO.IE
    Vet charge included the microchip and registration fees.

    That's not true. There were different databases, for instance IKC didn't use Fido. Also not all vets registered the chips after implanting, some gave the card to the owner to send it off themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    Op you could ask the customers to bring a copy of the dogs certificate. As you are aware, as of June (or maybe April...cant remember) last year all dogs have to be microchipped and registered and a certificate of same is issued. If you ask customers to bring in this certificate, you can safely assume that it the dog is chipped and the chip is registered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dumbnoodle30


    We would have to leave it to the kennel owner to deal with physical documents. We're only providing software for managing the kennels, anything beyond that we can't control. Best case scenario is a message can be shown demanding a microchip code to be obtained to accept the dog into the kennel. If a microchip number is obtained, then maybe we can try querying Europetnet for more information (thus why a dummy microchip number would be handy to have). I suppose I could solicit Europetnet to see if they have any lying around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,611 ✭✭✭muddypaws


    I think there could be data protection issues with kennel owners having access to microchip information. I actually would not use a kennel that had that kind of access to my information.

    I assume you are also building in some way of checking that there is a dog licence as that is also a legal requirement? And if someone is leaving four intact bitches into a kennel, that the kennel owner can check that the dog owner is complying with all legislation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 dumbnoodle30


    Data protection is indeed an issue, but try telling that to our project supervisor. There's a hefty checklist to go through such as ensuring that the dogs are vaccinated, micro chipped and licensed. All of this information would need to be supplied by the dog owner and I can't find any good public endpoints for verifying that kind of data.

    With such limitations I think it's best to leave it to physical paperwork when a dog is registered with a kennel and store only information that would be legally required to have if a kennel were to be ever inspected.

    In the end we might just have to trust that the kennel will ask for proof and that the dog owner will provide that proof (vaccination cards, licence etc.)


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