Looking for a rough idea on cost for replacing 2 valves

aka7

Valve1 at the bottom of the hot water tank (system heated by gas)
Valve2 on the 1" pipe coming down from the attic tank

I was putting some stops for pipes under a sink (sink to be removed)
In order to get this done I turned off the mains in the kitchen and then all the valves that I could see in the hot press.

Valve1
When turning the gate valve at the bottom of the hot water tank, I realised it was leaking. I assume the hot water tank will need to be drained to allow replacing this one.

Valve2
I had to drain the water tanks in the attic. Trying to turn off all the valves that I could see did not stop the water running at the bath taps until water tank in the attic was empty. One particular valve was really hard to turn either way. So this tells me the 1"gate valve needs to be replaced. Should I look for a ball gate as a replacement?

I would appreciate if anybody knowledgeable would let me know what kind of charge to expect. I live in Dublin.

Dtp1979

aka7 wrote: »

Valve1 at the bottom of the hot water tank (system heated by gas)
Valve2 on the 1" pipe coming down from the attic tank

I was putting some stops for pipes under a sink (sink to be removed)
In order to get this done I turned off the mains in the kitchen and then all the valves that I could see in the hot press.

Valve1
When turning the gate valve at the bottom of the hot water tank, I realised it was leaking. I assume the hot water tank will need to be drained to allow replacing this one.

Valve2
I had to drain the water tanks in the attic. Trying to turn off all the valves that I could see did not stop the water running at the bath taps until water tank in the attic was empty. One particular valve was really hard to turn either way. So this tells me the 1"gate valve needs to be replaced. Should I look for a ball gate as a replacement?

I would appreciate if anybody knowledgeable would let me know what kind of charge to expect. I live in Dublin.

1st pic is dreadful. Can't see anything worthwhile. Pic 2 is a balance valve. Close it, open 1 turn and leave it alone. If you turn off the valves that are usually chest high or higher then that should stop all water to bathrooms. To stop the cold at the kitchen sink you should turn off the new stopcock at the shiny new water meter at your gate

aka7

Dtp1979, thank you for your reply.

Valve1 (at the bottom of the hot water tank) is leaking. Sorry if picture is unclear.

Valve2 is not working properly,really stiff, so not able to turn off completely. I can't do more than 1/2 turn by hand. I am afraid to force it using tools.

Any idea how much would a plumber charge to change both especially if valve 1 needs drain of water tank?

Thanks again

Dtp1979

aka7 wrote: »

Dtp1979, thank you for your reply.

Valve1 (at the bottom of the hot water tank) is leaking. Sorry if picture is unclear.

Valve2 is not working properly,really stiff, so not able to turn off completely. I can't do more than 1/2 turn by hand. I am afraid to force it using tools.

Any idea how much would a plumber charge to change both especially if valve 1 needs drain of water tank?

Thanks again

At a guess I'd say 100-150

aka7

Thanks Dtp1979

Sleeper12

aka7 wrote:

Any idea how much would a plumber charge to change both especially if valve 1 needs drain of water tank?

Can I suggest replacing all valves in the hot press while you are at it. An extra valve or two won't add much to the bill. Fit lever valves for the hot and cold supply. These are a better valve IMO. I've never seen them seize up.

Dtp1979

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Can I suggest replacing all valves in the hot press while you are at it. An extra valve or two won't add much to the bill. Fit lever valves for the hot and cold supply. These are a better valve IMO. I've never seen them seize up.

Plus they don't let water pass. The only thing a gate valve is good for is a balancing valve

smjm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Can I suggest replacing all valves in the hot press while you are at it. An extra valve or two won't add much to the bill. Fit lever valves for the hot and cold supply. These are a better valve IMO. I've never seen them seize up.

I had this done a few weeks back. Replaced gate valves on the cold supply to the bathroom, shower and cylinder. Added a couple of new valves on the hot supply from the cylinder to the kitchen and bathroom. Took an hour. Charged €85 (€7 per valve plus €50 for the job). Money well spent IMO!

aka7

Thanks guys for all suggestions. I have somebody coming this week and I will change some of those valves.

@ smjm
It looks like you got a great deal. Did you have to drain the cylinder? My cylinder does not have a drain cock. So some other method will be needed. A guy at work mentioned the pipe freeze kit to avoid draining, will see.

Tom44

aka7 wrote: »

Thanks guys for all suggestions. I have somebody coming this week and I will change some of those valves.

@ smjm
It looks like you got a great deal. Did you have to drain the cylinder? My cylinder does not have a drain cock. So some other method will be needed. A guy at work mentioned the pipe freeze kit to avoid draining, will see.

Siphoning water out of the cylinder from the top , is not a big obstacle.

smjm

aka7 wrote: »

Thanks guys for all suggestions. I have somebody coming this week and I will change some of those valves.

@ smjm
It looks like you got a great deal. Did you have to drain the cylinder? My cylinder does not have a drain cock. So some other method will be needed. A guy at work mentioned the pipe freeze kit to avoid draining, will see.

I wasn't taking too much notice to be honest. I know he turned the water off at the mains, and I thought maybe he just ran the hot and cold taps to drain the tank in the loft and the cylinder in the hot press. Would that not work? Whatever he did, everything was back up and running; new valves and no problems!

aka7

Thanks for all suggestions.

The guy charge 70 to replace the 2 valves. The reason the valve on the 1" pipe wouldn't turn was because it had a piece of hard plastic inside that must have come down the pipe from the tank in the attic.