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Excessively loud pubs.. who enjoys this?

  • 11-03-2017 4:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭


    Really finding pubs are ruining the craic with excessively loud music lately.

    Ok, Ok, its been going on for years/decades, whatever.Anywhere anywhere big enough to have a bit of atmosphere seems to be at this lark.

    At a 30th last night and went to Bruxelles. The seating arrangement suggest its more a place for pints and banter rather than dancing. Bunch of people there hadn't seen in ages but could only really talk properly aside from in smoking area as they were blaring the the songs (most of which were tunes I really like) like we were deaf

    Porterhouse similar last week. What is the point in this? I've often heard they play music loud so people drink faster, but not convinced, Irish people have no issue drinking fast in silence.

    Are there actually people our there who enjoy shouting over music? I like some background music sure, but don't want to bloody compete with it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Really finding pubs are ruining the craic with excessively loud music lately.

    Ok, Ok, its been going on for years/decades, whatever.Anywhere anywhere big enough to have a bit of atmosphere seems to be at this lark.

    At a 30th last night and went to Bruxelles. The seating arrangement suggest its more a place for pints and banter rather than dancing. Bunch of people there hadn't seen in ages but could only really talk properly aside from in smoking area as they were blaring the the songs (most of which were tunes I really like) like we were deaf

    Porterhouse similar last week. What is the point in this? I've often heard they play music loud so people drink faster, but not convinced, Irish people have no issue drinking fast in silence.

    Are there actually people our there who enjoy shouting over music? I like some background music sure, but don't want to bloody compete with it!

    Were they busy? That's probably a good indicator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Are there actually people our there who enjoy shouting over music?

    If the pubs were full, you have your answer.

    There's plenty of pubs in Dublin with low or no music. If you go to places whose clientele clearly want or tolerate loud music, then you have to deal with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Its handy when you are in lousy company. Saves having to listen to their crap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,586 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I was in a pub on Dame lane once, saturday evening around 7.30, having a great chat with an old friend. Nice crowd there and nice atmosphere, good selection of music playing, was really enjoying it.

    Then just before 8pm for some reason one of the bar staff goes over and ramps the volume of the music way up, it went from perfect to ****ing blasting out of the speakers. Couldn't chat to my friend worth a damn any more, we finished our drink and went somewhere else.

    Its not a "get off my lawn" thing its simple common sense, only the braindead want the music so loud that no conversation is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭MrBlack93


    I wear discrete earplugs when in these environments. Really improves your ability to discern speech and protects your ears.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    If you can hear the music from outside you know it's a shıt boozer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    Love these places. All the cocktail bars everywhere these days are even better.

    Keeps the dickheads away from the proper drinkers pubs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    The publicans, and mindless idiots, that's who.

    It is a well known tactic that playing music at unbearable levels in pubs and clubs causes people to talk less, and therefore, drink faster. Having a drink near your lips at all times is a socIal crutch, that the majority feel a need for in pub situations - especially when you can't actually speak to another person and you are just standing/sitting there feeling like a gob****e. The idea is to make you feel uncomfortable, just there fidgeting with yourself, and so the idea is to always make you want to have a glass nearby.. Which means, more profit for the establishment at the end of the night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Vela


    I noticed this a few weeks ago and thought 'sh1t, am I getting old?!' We were walking around town for ages before we found a decent spot where there was a bit of music but not too loud to have a chat! Thank God for Keoghs :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    I've always wondered why people frequent such places (at least, outside of a nightclub setting) It didn't matter as much when I was a bit younger as we spent most of the time out in the smoking area or around the dancefloor. A bit of music at a decent volume is absolutely great, but when it's at the point where you're limited to shouting into the ear of the person next to you and the person one seat over might as well be in another room, it's time to leave.

    Was in a perfectly nice cocktail bar recently, music was playing at a nice level, everyone having a good time and close to ordering another round when suddenly a DJ appears, and proceeds to blast up the volume so loud our glasses were nearly vibrating. Finished the drinks and left the already half empty place to go elsewhere.

    I'm sure there's a logic to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭Snugglebunnies


    I was just thinking the same thing last weekend. The music was so loud we couldn't talk at all, it was very annoying. The same pub used to be lovely for a chat but they expanded lately and seem to have ramped up the music along with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I don't get why local pubs have live music. Who on earth goes to the local to see a band play Brown Eyed Girl for 52nd week in a row?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Yeh I never get music, any music at all, in pubs. Unless it's live music and that is what you are there for, or its restaurant low.

    I mean people go to pubs to drink and talk, and go to restaurants to eat and talk. But only one of those places blasts music at that level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    I don't get why local pubs have live music. Who on earth goes to the local to see a band play Brown Eyed Girl for 52nd week in a row?

    100% agree on the local pub thing.

    however if I'm on the piss later on I like a venue with loud music . not on the piss less music...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Really finding pubs are ruining the craic with excessively loud music lately.

    At a 30th last night and went to Bruxelle...,

    Assuming you're the same vintage as the birthday boy/girl, wait until you get to your 40s and you just find pubs intolerable and full of tossers and just don't bother your hole going to them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    young people enjoy it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Glenster wrote: »
    young people enjoy it.

    I didn't. It's not a new thing. Loud music can't benefit anybody unless it has a dance floor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    It's "atmosphere" apparently :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    I didn't. It's not a new thing. Loud music can't benefit anybody unless it has a dance floor.

    quiet old mans pub.

    rowdy, loud young persons pub.

    I don't see what the point of denying that clear split in society is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    As above, people drink faster/more when the music is so loud. Same when people are standing.

    Just avoid places like that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,360 ✭✭✭Lorelli!


    I don't get why local pubs have live music. Who on earth goes to the local to see a band play Brown Eyed Girl for 52nd week in a row?

    My local pub is actually alright and i live in a small village. Sometimes if its a band or a singer with backing music, it isnt great and a bit cheesy but if they play a song I know and is catchy enough I'm happy. They use to have a blues night the odd time and the musicians that did that were really good. Theyve had a few good night's for local and Irish bands too.

    The music volume doesn't really bother me tbh although in saying that I always find music isn't loud enough. I was never really one for nightclubs though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Glenster wrote: »
    quiet old mans pub.

    rowdy, loud young persons pub.

    I don't see what the point of denying that clear split in society is.

    It doesn't mean people enjoy it. Young people do go to loud pubs because that's where the young people go. The logic may seem circular but that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Too loud - yer too old




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    It doesn't mean people enjoy it. Young people do go to loud pubs because that's where the young people go. The logic may seem circular but that's it.

    That's a silly thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,586 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Yeh I never get music, any music at all, in pubs. Unless it's live music and that is what you are there for, or its restaurant low.

    There is nothing at all wrong with music in pubs, it can be really relaxing to just chill with a pint and some good music playing. And there are busy bars that could actually do with some background music playing, the noise of hundreds of people all shouting can get on your nerves after a while and good music can tune that out.

    The problem isn't music, properly judged music makes a bar better not worse. The problem is dumbass bar managers actively annoying their customers by turning the volume up well past the level of comfort.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭JackTaylorFan


    It doesn't mean people enjoy it. Young people do go to loud pubs because that's where the young people go. The logic may seem circular but that's it.

    For a lot of young people, it's the cheap drinks that brings them to these holes where the music is too loud. It's a compromise. When I went out as a student, I always wanted to go somewhere you could hear yourself think, but was always shouted down (quite literally) because drinks were too pricey in the decent bars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    If the pubs were full, you have your answer.

    There's plenty of pubs in Dublin with low or no music. If you go to places whose clientele clearly want or tolerate loud music, then you have to deal with it.
    It's a bit like the clowns that pay big money to go to concerts to get blind drunk and keep nattering while everyone else wants to listen to the music. The majority of people don't care about the music when they have a belly full of beer ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    As above, people drink faster/more when the music is so loud. Same when people are standing.

    Just avoid places like that.
    The best music to make people drink is ballad with plenty rebel songs, but with so many multicultural people in Ireland today it might offend someone :rolleyes: Whiny Ed Sheeran sh1t doesn't do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭jrar


    theteal wrote: »
    It's "atmosphere" apparently :rolleyes:

    Exactly ! Was in a well-known Dublin pub a few years back around 4 in the afternoon waiting for a pal to join me. Sat at the bar reading the paper and suddenly realised they had the radio on behind the bar, the TV was on at volume 7 or 8 out of 10 with the greatest air-filler of them all i.e. Sky News, AND there was piped music going on as well (****e "muzak" - Richard Clayderman / James Last style stuff)

    Chatting to the barman whilst paying for my pint and asked him if there was any chance of maybe 1 of the 3 noise sources being turned down a tad - "no can do, house policy" I was told, "adds to the atmosphere" !

    Thankfully my pal was a few mins late - when he arrived in, I drained my pint and told him not to order and we'd go find somewhere where the customer might actually be catered for !

    There was an old pub on Baggot St. years ago which had a little sign behind the counter - "a bird is known by its song, a man by his conversation" - now that's a maxim that a few current bar owners might do well to learn !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    I do most of my boozing in rural pubs and the 2-3 which I frequent don't do music, thank God. There might be live trad every now and again, but I enjoy that.

    The best part about pints is the conversation and bit of craic that goes with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    When the next generation goes to the pub there'll be no need for music or conversation as they will have their heads planted in their phones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Was in a real loud pub last night.

    Some gobsh1te kept the jukebox full of 90s dance tunes. I think he played atb's "9pm till I come" about 5 times.

    A cock of the walk chap, I felt like going over to him and throwing him through the front window.

    Bloody Arsehole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    Was in a real loud pub last night.

    Some gobsh1te kept the jukebox full of 90s dance tunes. I think he played atb's "9pm till I come" about 5 times.

    A cock of the walk chap, I felt like going over to him and throwing him through the front window.

    Bloody Arsehole.

    you know it was the cocaine...:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I'm surprised with all the elf n safety these days that there's no one checking music volume levels in pubs and clubs.

    If the bar staff are wearing ear plugs...it's probably a sign the place is not that good for your unguarded ears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    Was in a real loud pub last night.

    Some gobsh1te kept the jukebox full of 90s dance tunes. I think he played atb's "9pm till I come" about 5 times.

    A cock of the walk chap, I felt like going over to him and throwing him through the front window.

    Bloody Arsehole.
    Play it loud old boy :cool:


    Also just for you, a cautionary tale of taking cocaine and shooting ones woman:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Los lobos la bamba, trombone version. Loud enough to give you a headache. A must for the next after hours meet up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    horses for courses . . .

    depends what type of night you are after, if it's a bit of craic and banter and a catch up with your friends, a loud music venue may not be the best choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,129 ✭✭✭PucaMama


    Play it loud old boy :cool:


    Also just for you, a cautionary tale of taking cocaine and shooting ones woman:

    Playing the first one at all is bad enough but repeating it!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Really finding pubs are ruining the craic with excessively loud music lately.

    Ok, Ok, its been going on for years/decades, whatever.Anywhere anywhere big enough to have a bit of atmosphere seems to be at this lark.

    At a 30th last night and went to Bruxelles. The seating arrangement suggest its more a place for pints and banter rather than dancing. Bunch of people there hadn't seen in ages but could only really talk properly aside from in smoking area as they were blaring the the songs (most of which were tunes I really like) like we were deaf

    Porterhouse similar last week. What is the point in this? I've often heard they play music loud so people drink faster, but not convinced, Irish people have no issue drinking fast in silence.

    Are there actually people our there who enjoy shouting over music? I like some background music sure, but don't want to bloody compete with it!

    Go to the greyhound track. Booze, food, conversation and you can have fun betting on the dogs.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I like loud music, can never turn up the tunes enough at home so if im in the mood for it then I like the pubs to be really loud. I also don't find it that hard to talk to people when the music is loud, you might have to shout but I have no problem having conversations. Also even without a dance floor (which I wouldn't really go on anyway) you can still bop along with the songs from your seat or standing around in a group.

    On the other hand if I want a few quiet pints and a chat I will go to a different type of pub. In other words pick the pub you want for the night you want, pubs should cater to the different things people want.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    When the next generation goes to the pub there'll be no need for music or conversation as they will have their heads planted in their phones.

    Was out with my sister and her friends years ago in a noisy pub. They were all writing text messages and just handing the phone to the person, this was before smart phones. So your next generation could be having a conversation with several people at the same time, instead of having to shout to the group, with their heads in their phone. Why does craic have to be vocal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Its also down to crap sound systems that a lot of pubs use, if they got in a Funktion-One sound system, its one of the only sound systems I know that you actually can have a conversation over it and can still hear music pretty decently, thats the sign of a good sound system and a pub that cares about the music they play and their clientele.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Completely prevents a group having a group conversation and means that at best you can only speak to the person immediately next to you.

    Drives me nuts when a pub has a good crowd happily chatting away with the background music going only for the barman to suddenly decide to make the background music the foreground music and suddenly disrupt the flow of conversations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Going to Bruxelles and then giving out about the music :confused: that is what that place does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,423 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I'm deaf and the louder the music the better.
    Brings everyone else down to my fcuking level.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Its also down to crap sound systems that a lot of pubs use, if they got in a Funktion-One sound system, its one of the only sound systems I know that you actually can have a conversation over it and can still hear music pretty decently, thats the sign of a good sound system and a pub that cares about the music they play and their clientele.

    Most Irish pubs put the bose speakers all over the shop, Including the bass speaker. So if you are under that it's thump thump thump. You can't even recognise the song.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    Was in a Dublin city pub last weekend with the music turned down quite low and it was a revelation. You could simultaneously enjoy the music and hold proper conversations. A very relaxing night. Having to shout to conversate is the opposite of relaxing.


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