Dutch for Leaving Cert

Syntha45

I'm in 5th Year and have an aptitude for Learning languages, my school only offers french so I talked to my teacher about doing another language (as Im doing another extra subject already) and she said it would be fine I don't need to be a native speaker, just need to have learned it and make sure the school registers me for it. I picked Dutch because it's not that hard to learn even tho I've only started this week. Any advice would be appreciated.

rainbowtrout

Unless you are Dutch and speaking it as your native language you are not eligible to sit the exam.

From the SEC website:

https://www.examinations.ie/?l=en&mc=ex&sc=eu

The list of subjects for the Leaving Certificate examination includes the following language subjects: Irish, English, Ancient Greek, Arabic, French, German, Hebrew Studies, Italian, Japanese, Spanish and Russian.

The State Examinations Commission also provides examinations in a range of subjects in the language area referred to as the non-curricular EU languages. These are languages which do not appear as part of the normal school curriculum but which students may opt to be examined in if they meet certain criteria. Chief among these conditions are the requirements that candidates for these examinations :

Be from a member state of the European Union
Speak the language in which they opt to be examined in as a mother tongue,
Have followed a programme of study leading to the Leaving Certificate
Be taking Leaving Certificate English
Another condition is that candidates may undertake examination in one non-curricular language subject only.

For 2017 these examinations are offered in the following subjects:
Latvian, Lithuanian, Romanian,Slovenian,
Modern Greek, Finnish, Polish, Estonian, Slovakian,
Swedish, Czech, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Portuguese, Danish, Dutch, Croatian

The development of the examinations in these languages has evolved over time. From time to time the SEC, and prior to 2003 the Department of Education and Science, have received requests to provide examinations for native speakers in their mother tongue. The policy has been to accede to these requests in the case of the national languages of EU states in line with the commitment made by member states under Article 149 of the Treaty of Nice. This states that "Community action shall be aimed at developing the European dimension in education, particularly through the teaching and dissemination of the languages of the Member States."

The model for the non-curricular language examination papers is based on the First Foreign Language final written paper of the European Baccalaureate.

School candidates can register for the non-curricular language examinations through their schools and candidates studying outside of school or non-school attending candidates (i.e. external candidates) can use the external candidate application form available here.

Syntha45

If you read the article you'll realise it says you can sit the exam if you have followed a a programme of study leading to the leaving cert, therefor you do don't have to be a native speaker

rainbowtrout

Syntha45 wrote: »

If you read the article you'll realise it says you can sit the exam if you have followed a a programme of study leading to the leaving cert, therefor you do don't have to be a native speaker

And if you read it you'll notice that there are multiple requirements, all of which I highlighted. Following a suitable LC course is just one of them, you still need to be a native speaker.

the dark phantom

My son studied Japanese of his own accord and his school organised for him to sit it as a leaving cert subject. BTW My son is not Japanese.

rainbowtrout

the dark phantom wrote: »

My son studied Japanese of his own accord and his school organised for him to sit it as a leaving cert subject. BTW My son is not Japanese.

Japanese is a curricular language and a syllabus exists for it. That's why he was able to sit it.

the dark phantom

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Japanese is a curricular language and a syllabus exists for it. That's why he was able to sit it.

Whatever. He never done any of it in school anyway. Sound.

rainbowtrout

the dark phantom wrote: »

Whatever. He never done any of it in school anyway. Sound.

Charming. There are a comprehensive list of languages listed above which are curricular and there is a set syllabus for, which any student can register for. There is also a comprehensive list of non-curricular languages that are available for Leaving Cert, for which there is no syllabus and for which the candidate must be a native speaker.

spurious

Japanese and Russian are curricular subjects, open to all. The EU languages are there under a reciprocal arrangement with other countries.
OP, I would suggest Russian or Japanese are better options.

Peregrine

the dark phantom wrote: »

Whatever. He never done any of it in school anyway. Sound.

I'd suggest that you drop the narky tone or don't post in this thread.

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dubguy2017

For any language that is not listed as an LC curriculum language, unless you are a native speaker, do not take on that exam. It would be something similar to our English papers. Very tough and a high standard required. Those exams are specifically geared towards people who came from other countries and from whom English is not their native tongue.