Options for handling big bags of fertiliser

Dozer1

moved to a 1/2 tonne spreader and need a way of holding the bags up while I put them in the spreader as I've only 1 tractor.

I've seen some here with a hook welded on a shed pillar, that would be my ideal option but slightly concerned that the only pillar I have suitable is probably 40+ years old.
It's part of a 4 collumn haybarn that has was also used as a wall for a silage pit.
just wondering would it be strong enough, last thing I want is the pillar to pull out of the wall and bring the shed with it.

there is a pretty new 5 ft concrete wall at another part of the yard, would a 10 ft RSJ bolted to this wall with a hook on top be safer?

pedigree 6

Bit different to what you're asking but another option would be to put an A frame on the back of tractor and hook up to the spreader that way.
Just have to get out of seat to connect/disconnect pto shaft and hydraulic pipe.
That's what I do leave off spreader, pick up bag/bags, fill and hook up again and go.

freedominacup

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Bit different to what you're asking but another option would be to put an A frame on the back of tractor and hook up to the spreader that way.
Just have to get out of seat to connect/disconnect pto shaft and hydraulic pipe.
That's what I do leave off spreader, pick up bag/bags, fill and hook up again and go.

Why not simply get the properly manufactured big bag hoists that are part of the linkage between spreader and tractor.

josephsoap

I am in a similar situation myself, one loader tractor

I'm considering purchasing one of these http://domusdistribution.com fertiliser bag platform but just wondering if anyone else has used before?

patsy_mccabe

josephsoap wrote: »

I am in a similar situation myself, one loader tractor

I'm considering purchasing one of these http://domusdistribution.com fertiliser bag platform but just wondering if anyone else has used before?

How much?

josephsoap

I'll send you a pm

pedigree 6

freedominacup wrote: »

Why not simply get the properly manufactured big bag hoists that are part of the linkage between spreader and tractor.

I'd imagine that would be heavier than an A frame.:p

A frame is handy though for the implements.
Pull the chain and go.

Dozer1

i'd be worried tractor wouldn't be able for the hoist its only a 2wd. also how much is a hoist i only spread about 4 pallets a year

Damo810

Pretty sure someone made up a frame out of scaffolding on the guntering thread before

tractorporn

josephsoap wrote:

I'm considering purchasing one of these

patsy_mccabe wrote:

How much?

josephsoap wrote:

I'll send you a pm

Is the price of the stand a state secret or something?

Dunedin

josephsoap wrote: »

I'll send you a pm

Can you pm me also. Cheers

I said

josephsoap wrote: »

I'll send you a pm

And me thanks

Username John

tractorporn wrote: »

Is the price of the stand a state secret or something?

Ah, I wouldn't like to put up a price if I felt the guy I was chatting with seemed a decent lad, and if I thought they wouldn't like it... not sure why, just wouldn't like to...

nhg

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056976726

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/161433/270117.jpg

We have one a few years now and we are still very happy with it.

I had gotten permission at that time to post all the details about it - bear in mind it's a few years old now so price might not be correct - see old thread linked above.

I saw an advert on Farmers Journal a few weeks ago for it.

josephsoap

nhg wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056976726

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/161433/270117.jpg

We have one a few years now and we are still very happy with it.

I had gotten permission at that time to post all the details about it - see old thread above.

Thanks nhg

Think I'm going to purchase!!

Muckit

Damo810 wrote: »

Pretty sure someone made up a frame out of scaffolding on the guntering thread before

That was me. Not scaffolding. It was pallet racking I bought and it was rated to hold the weight safely. Great job because it can be taken apart and moved if necessary. I stick an IBC on it and use it when I'm spraying.

tractorporn

Username John wrote:

Ah, I wouldn't like to put up a price if I felt the guy I was chatting with seemed a decent lad, and if I thought they wouldn't like it... not sure why, just wouldn't like to...

Sorry not having a go at you but it's real bugbear of mine that lads in the machinery trade like to keep their prices a secret, I'm most other walks of life if you want to buy something you generally know the price of it. It just reeks of lads wanting to get a jump on customers.

tractorporn

Muckit wrote:

That was me. Not scaffolding. It was pallet racking I bought and it was rated to hold the weight safely. Great job because it can be taken apart and moved if necessary. I stick an IBC on it and use it when I'm spraying.

Any pics Muckit?

Muckit

tractorporn wrote: »

Any pics Muckit?

It's the exact same as this. http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/2/5/3/0/7/9/webimg/279238354_o.jpg

1 bay of pallet racking. 2 ends and I use 4 cross members. They just click into place. No bolts.

tractorporn

Muckit wrote:

1 bay of pallet racking. 2 ends and I use 4 cross members. They just click into place. No bolts.

Do you hang the bag on the top rail or put a pallet or something on the first rail? I just did a quick donedeal search and place not far away has heaps of racking for sale.

Muckit

Doesn't matter what way you do it once the weight is straight down in the middle of the frame. I wouldn't hang off outside bar alone as the whole thing could topple over

Buford T. Justice XIX

nhg wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056976726

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/161433/270117.jpg

We have one a few years now and we are still very happy with it.

I had gotten permission at that time to post all the details about it - bear in mind it's a few years old now so price might not be correct - see old thread linked above.

I saw an advert on Farmers Journal a few weeks ago for it.

It's not that far out either, was quoted less than 800, vat and delivery included, and I'd be a good distance away from him. I was surprised it was that cheap tbh.

I still think I'll wait for a crane, it would suit me better.

Dozer1

thanks Muckit that looks the job

quoted 200 + VAT incl delivery for a single bay 2nd hand of the pallet racking, is that about the price of it?

Muckit

Can't remember off hand, twas 5-6 years ago. The side bits of mine were 20' high and I cut them into two 10's. But that price sounds ok if he's delivering

Dunedin

nhg wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056976726

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/161433/270117.jpg

We have one a few years now and we are still very happy with it.

I had gotten permission at that time to post all the details about it - bear in mind it's a few years old now so price might not be correct - see old thread linked above.

I saw an advert on Farmers Journal a few weeks ago for it.

Are they, or do they need to be bolted to the ground or can they be moved around the yard?

nhg

Dunedin wrote: »

Are they, or do they need to be bolted to the ground or can they be moved around the yard?

They can be bolted if you want, we didn't bolt ours down in case we wanted to move it easily anytime

Nekarsulm

Quick Stage scaffolding is very handy stuff. Each piece usually sells for 7 or 8 euro, for a hundred or a hundred and fifty euro you would have enough to build any tower you want.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractorparts-for-sale/scaffolding/14452121

Great if you are going at a bit of guttering or similar. Buy new boards, not worth saving a few euro and falling through the thing.

If you have builders around the place, hide your scaffolding .

locha

Quick hijack of thread. Has anyone got a price on 18.6.12 in the last week or so?

Username John

locha wrote: »

Quick hijack of thread. Has anyone got a price on 18.6.12 in the last week or so?

Not sure how useful this is to you - got a few small bags in the creamery on Sat, 18euro / bag...

That would multiply out to be 360 / ton, but a ton would be slightly cheaper, and maybe big bags a bit cheaper again?

Again, not sure how useful that info is to you

johnnyw20

Paid 335 for 2 ton of 18-6-12 last week in small bags

rliston

locha wrote: »

Quick hijack of thread. Has anyone got a price on 18.6.12 in the last week or so?

I was quoted €360\ton by Kerry Agri on Saturday, same price for small and big bags

locha

Ordered this afternoon €335 and I'm buying a fairy large quantity. Tired two merchants both on the same.

razor8

Any new inventions for handling bulk fertiliser bags with on tractor?

Hard Knocks

razor8 wrote: »

Any new inventions for handling bulk fertiliser bags with on tractor?

Think there’s a cone funnel that can release and stop the flow of fertilizer out of the bottom of the bag
Looks handy but still need a front loader

razor8

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Think there’s a cone funnel that can release and stop the flow of fertilizer out of the bottom of the bag
Looks handy but still need a front loader

Have on of those for Quad spreader but I need loader for lifting bag and to be able to get underneath bag with spreader at the same time. Have hung bags from shed but it’s not very safe

Good loser

I empty big bags manually with a galvanised bucket - 2.5 galls approx.

4 buckets = 1 cwt urea. 3 buckets = 1 cwt 10/10/20, cut sward etc.

Have to concentrate to get the count right!

Say my name

razor8 wrote: »

Any new inventions for handling bulk fertiliser bags with on tractor?

Forklift.

_Brian

Good loser wrote: »

I empty big bags manually with a galvanised bucket - 2.5 galls approx.

4 buckets = 1 cwt urea. 3 buckets = 1 cwt 10/10/20, cut sward etc.

Have to concentrate to get the count right!

We do this if not loading a full bag.
It’s surprisingly easy and quick.

Grueller

_Brian wrote: »

We do this if not loading a full bag.
It’s surprisingly easy and quick.

I loaded 9 tonnes that way one time on the out farm. Wasn't long til I worked out another solution. I made a frame and mounted it on an old tubular streetlight that I got from a man working for the ESB. I can now hang the bag up with the loader and turn around, reverse the spinner under and cut the bag.
At home I always lift the bags on the loader of the second tractor. I bought a vidbag dispenser last year and can measure out the amount from a 500kg bag now. It's a great little piece of equipment.

Mac Taylor

Grueller wrote: »

I loaded 9 tonnes that way one time on the out farm. Wasn't long til I worked out another solution. I made a frame and mounted it on an old tubular streetlight that I got from a man working for the ESB. I can now hang the bag up with the loader and turn around, reverse the spinner under and cut the bag.
At home I always lift the bags on the loader of the second tractor. I bought a vidbag dispenser last year and can measure out the amount from a 500kg bag now. It's a great little piece of equipment.

Hi grueller, any chance of a photo? Thanks, Mac

Grueller

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Hi grueller, any chance of a photo? Thanks, Mac

I'll be on the out farm tomorrow and will get one