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Peak alcohol consumption in 2001

  • 06-03-2017 08:33AM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11


    The Irish people have been drinking less and less ever since 2001, why do you think that is?

    I think it's related to reducing levels if insecurity, don't get me wrong, the average person is still quite insecure but less so than 2001. There is less insecurity now about how to navigate the world in my opinion due to greater information being available.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Maybe because the price has gone through the roofs & were all smoking weed now :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    Cocaine became fashionable


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    Maybe because the price has gone through the roofs & were all smoking weed now :-)

    It seemed to me that more people smoked weed in 2001 as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    It seemed to me that more people smoked weed in 2001 as well.

    Erm I don't think so,

    would you have any links to that & would you have any links to say were drinking less as all I ever here is were drinking more & more, cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Jodotman


    Theres a little thing called the recession which made people more careful with money. Young people are also more aware of the dangers associaTed with it and there's they gym and fitness mentality now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Avada wrote: »
    Cocaine became fashionable

    yea true but a lot of people only take coke after drinking , they kinda go hand n hand, though I do know one lad who just sniffs coke n don't drink at all, but think he is the exception.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    Erm I don't think so,

    would you have any links to that & would you have any links to say were drinking less as all I ever here is were drinking more & more, cheers.

    alcoholireland.ie/facts/how-much-do-we-drink/

    We drank significantly more in 2001, I don't have figures for weed obviously but just like I remeber people drinking more in 2001 I remember people smoking weed more in 2001.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Everyone is feeling peaky today.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    Jodotman wrote: »
    Theres a little thing called the recession which made people more careful with money. Young people are also more aware of the dangers associaTed with it and there's they gym and fitness mentality now.

    So why were people drinking significantly less in 2006 compared to 2001?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    alcoholireland.ie/facts/how-much-do-we-drink/

    We drank significantly more in 2001, I don't have figures for week obviously but just like I remeber people drinking more in 2001 I remember people smoking weed more in 2001.


    Ah well, sure I find it hard to remember Friday :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Your Face wrote: »
    Everyone is feeling peaky today.

    Yea OP today is hangover Monday, who wants to read about what we drank 17 years ago, I want to know when I going out again, erm maybe tonight I hope, me head kinda hurting today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,568 ✭✭✭valoren


    Increasing price of alcohol is inversely proportional to reduction in consumption.

    I wonder do the stats refer to alcohol purchased in a pub at all?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    valoren wrote: »
    Increasing price of alcohol is inversely proportional to reduction in consumption.

    I wonder do the stats refer to alcohol purchased in a pub at all?

    A remember reading that the decrease in consumption was both in pubs and at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    So why were people drinking significantly less in 2006 compared to 2001?

    Emmigration - lots of places were like a graveyard ?

    You couldn't believe alcoholireland radio - be like the news crew in 1984

    Look at the scums latest idea they're pushing :
    Minimum unit pricing - get the facts on this life-saving measure


    Funded by the hse and the one foundation :



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Emmigration - lots of places were like a graveyard ?

    - when does this refer to? The population has grown between 2001 and 2006, and between 2001 and now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    - when does this refer to? The population has grown between 2001 and 2006, and between 2001 and now.

    Have to look at what kind of growth


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    Our current level of alcohol consumption, based on 2016 figures, is 11.46 litres of pure alcohol per person aged 15+, an increase of 4.8% from 2015 (10.93 litres). If you exclude the 20% of the population aged 15+ who do not drink alcohol, our alcohol consumption rises to 14.33 litres of pure alcohol for every Irish person aged 15 and over. There were increases recorded in all categories of alcohol during 2016: spirits (+8.9%), cider (+8.5%), wine (+6.2%), and beer (+3.7%). - See more at: http://alcoholireland.ie/home_news/how-much-are-we-really-drinking/#sthash.rs7RczJd.dpuf

    Alcohol consumption in Ireland almost trebled over four decades between 1960 (4.9 litres of pure alcohol per capita) and 2000 (14.1 litres of pure alcohol per capita), as alcohol became much more affordable and more widely available.Since then, our alcohol consumption has declined by 19.6%, from a peak of 14.3 litres of pure alcohol per capita in 2001, to 11.5 litres in 2016. However, this decline has not been consistent throughout those years, with changing levels of affordability, related to excise duty and economic factors, having a direct and immediate impact on population consumption patterns - See more at: http://alcoholireland.ie/home_news/how-much-are-we-really-drinking/#sthash.rs7RczJd.dpuf

    Hope that helps as I now going to the bar & I blaming you OP.
    Early houses are a gift to Irishmankind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Hic ..... snashbox , there you are .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Our current level of alcohol consumption, based on 2016 figures, is 11.46 litres of pure alcohol per person aged 15+, an increase of 4.8% from 2015 (10.93 litres). If you exclude the 20% of the population aged 15+ who do not drink alcohol, our alcohol consumption rises to 14.33 litres of pure alcohol for every Irish person aged 15 and over. There were increases recorded in all categories of alcohol during 2016: spirits (+8.9%), cider (+8.5%), wine (+6.2%), and beer (+3.7%). - See more at: http://alcoholireland.ie/home_news/how-much-are-we-really-drinking/#sthash.rs7RczJd.dpuf

    Alcohol consumption in Ireland almost trebled over four decades between 1960 (4.9 litres of pure alcohol per capita) and 2000 (14.1 litres of pure alcohol per capita), as alcohol became much more affordable and more widely available.Since then, our alcohol consumption has declined by 19.6%, from a peak of 14.3 litres of pure alcohol per capita in 2001, to 11.5 litres in 2016. However, this decline has not been consistent throughout those years, with changing levels of affordability, related to excise duty and economic factors, having a direct and immediate impact on population consumption patterns - See more at: http://alcoholireland.ie/home_news/how-much-are-we-really-drinking/#sthash.rs7RczJd.dpuf

    Hope that helps as I now going to the bar & I blaming you OP.
    Early houses are a gift to Irishmankind.

    I wonder if the calculated consumption is purely based on ROI sales figures?

    I'd suspect the increasing price does not factor in the growing, 'trip to Newry to fill a shopping trolly full of slabs' trend that was growing exponentially over the last decade, and has seen a lot more drinking at home occur.
    I also think that many in their thirties and forties are a little more health conscious these days. I'm seeing a lot more of that age group in the gymn etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,912 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    So why were people drinking significantly less in 2006 compared to 2001?
    Only poor people drink (or something like that).


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    In my opinion people are just leas interested in drinking alcohol in 2016 compared to 2001. You were much more likely to see parents camped in the pub with the kids all day back in 2001 compared to now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    I would say there's a lot more activities available for people nowadays then just the pub being the only option for socialising. Plus tv is much better theses days :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    I loved to know how they get the figures. Is it from excise duty on alcohol? If so it doesn't take into account the increase in the black market and also our most recent immigrants bringing drink back here each time they visit their home country.

    I don't see less drinking out there anecdotally although I agree there's an increase in the amount of people interested in their fitness.

    Another factor could be the increase in wine drinking? Higher volume less excise maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Cina


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I can, it's not like it tastes different or feels stronger, or you feel more of a need to stop than you would from a normal pint. It just absolutely ruins me later on.

    Even 6% stuff like Cute Hoor gives shocking hangovers.

    Craft Beer is the devil.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    pilly wrote: »
    I loved to know how they get the figures. Is it from excise duty on alcohol? If so it doesn't take into account the increase in the black market and also our most recent immigrants bringing drink back here each time they visit their home country.

    I don't see less drinking out there anecdotally although I agree there's an increase in the amount of people interested in their fitness.

    Another factor could be the increase in wine drinking? Higher volume less excise maybe?

    Why is it so hard to believe that people simply chose to drink more in 2001 than now?

    Whenever I discuss this sibject with people it seems they all want to scramble for a reasonto explain why we actually drink more now, it's like they need to believe that we drink more now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    Why is it so hard to believe that people simply chose to drink more in 2001 than now?

    Not that hard to believe, just I haven't seen it around me. Bear in mind I was an adult with a wide social circle in 2001 and still have it now and I haven't seen any change.

    You asked the question, I'm giving my thoughts.

    What did you want people to reply?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭Cina


    I do find it hard to believe, by the way. I mean it's almost impossible to go to a pub in Dublin on the weekend that isn't absolutely jammed.

    Maybe down the country? Sligo in particular is a bit of a ghost town these days aside from a few pubs and one club.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    Cina wrote: »
    I do find it hard to believe, by the way. I mean it's almost impossible to go to a pub in Dublin on the weekend that isn't absolutely jammed.

    Maybe down the country? Sligo in particular is a bit of a ghost town these days aside from a few pubs and one club.

    Do you remeber what it was like in 2001?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11 Regnen55


    pilly wrote: »
    Not that hard to believe, just I haven't seen it around me. Bear in mind I was an adult with a wide social circle in 2001 and still have it now and I haven't seen any change.

    You asked the question, I'm giving my thoughts.

    What did you want people to reply?

    I'm just giving my thoughts as well. I remember drinking binges being much more widespread and intense in 2001.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    I'm just giving my thoughts as well. I remember drinking binges being much more widespread and intense in 200.

    That's fine but you can't shoot down people who have a different opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    Cina wrote: »
    I do find it hard to believe, by the way. I mean it's almost impossible to go to a pub in Dublin on the weekend that isn't absolutely jammed.

    Population of Dublin has grown considerably since 2001, whereas new licences for pubs haven't been issued in many years, AFAIK.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 785 ✭✭✭team_actimel


    I'd say it's cos more people are staying in glued to their tvs, tablets, etc having their Netflix binges. People are socialising less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Regnen55 wrote: »
    So why were people drinking significantly less in 2006 compared to 2001?
    I suspect a large part of it will be age profile. People in the 18-30 age groups spend a lot of money on alcohol. There are fewer people in that age group now.

    Additionally, people started spending a lot of money on other things, like property - and babies.
    Jodotman wrote: »
    Theres a little thing called the recession which made people more careful with money.
    Recession didn't kick in until about 2008.
    gctest50 wrote: »
    Emmigration - lots of places were like a graveyard ?
    Emigration doesn't directly affect per capita consumption. That said, many of the emigrants would be younger people.
    pilly wrote: »
    I loved to know how they get the figures. Is it from excise duty on alcohol? If so it doesn't take into account the increase in the black market and also our most recent immigrants bringing drink back here each time they visit their home country.
    conorhal wrote: »
    I wonder if the calculated consumption is purely based on ROI sales figures?

    I'd suspect the increasing price does not factor in the growing, 'trip to Newry to fill a shopping trolly full of slabs' trend that was growing exponentially over the last decade, and has seen a lot more drinking at home occur.
    Grey / black market imports will affect measurements, but their effect is probably overstated. Also, it is something that is difficult to measure.
    El Tarangu wrote: »
    Population of Dublin has grown considerably since 2001, whereas new licences for pubs haven't been issued in many years, AFAIK.
    Yes, but the number of off-licences has increased hugely.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Dr Crayfish


    Cina wrote: »
    I can, it's not like it tastes different or feels stronger, or you feel more of a need to stop than you would from a normal pint. It just absolutely ruins me later on.

    Even 6% stuff like Cute Hoor gives shocking hangovers.

    Craft Beer is the devil.

    Agreed. The stuff absolutely wipes me out and the hangovers are absolutely atrocious. I keep buying pints of the stuff when I'm out though, I really wish I didn't, the hangovers are hellish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,901 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    Can't believe nobody mentioned drink driving!
    You simply can't pull up at the pub anymore and have a few pints on the way home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    The euro came in in 2002.

    Lies, dammed lies and statistics and poor grammer.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I drink a lot more now than I did in 2001. In fact in 2001, I probably had no more than few drinks per month, whereas now I would have a couple of bottles of wine each week or another couple on top of that every other week when I go out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Alcohol has been replaced by protein shakes. More people into health and fitness now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    I wonder did the smoking ban have an effect too? What year was that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    I havent had a blue WKD since 2002....thats probably why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Health and fitness is on the rise but ironically confidence and self esteem are at an all time low as a result. A vanity approach to fitness and availability of social media are wreaking havoc on younger people.


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