Major Seetec Problems - help needed urgently

QuestionHere

Has anyone experience of the Seetec Scheme/Private Company? I was "chosen" to go on it, and went reluctantly - was told they did not have the type of job or areas I wanted ( broad, management) and that I was "too qualified" for them and they did not support or help look for the type of job I wanted. I am 30+ years working in management & had about 5 areas I could work in. They refused to give me a print out of the personal development plan they urged me to sign and repeatedly under pressure, and insisted I sign it although it in no way matched they kind of roles I wanted to work in. After a lengthy and heated discussion I learned that despite repeatedly declining to sign it as it was for the jobs I wanted, or had qualifications or experience in, I made a complaint, and getting nowhere asked to be deselected as one of the 500 people out of 200,000 "chosen" for this low grade junior level support programme. I heard after that I cannot get off this programme, and any job I get will still link me to this programme where the Seetec Staff will override my rights and contact the HR/Manager weekly to see how I am getting on, and can ask me to go in for "hints and tips" "training" or keep me as their cash cow for up to 2 years if THEY so choose. I have effectively been sold as a revenue slave to this private company for 2 years and despite being a PAYE earner all my life (30+ working years) will be cut off if I refuse to go in. I feel utterly betrayed and trapped. Despite writing and stating this to the SW office and saying I would continue to jobsearch and interview, and provide any proofs at any time or meeting they wanted they refused to take me off the Seetec "scheme" despite Seetec saying they would not look for any roles for me above junior level or paying above 27K. I have worked hard all my life and made a lot of sacrifices to get where I was, and have expectations for my life far in excess of that of this I, Daniel Blane UK private company. Social welfare has been no use, and there is no reference to it on their website. Can anybody help me please? I am well qualified & working professionally almost 30 years. I feel as though I am being sold as a slave and my whole future is at stake. Has anyone had experience of this?

Wanderer78

plenty of threads about this company on boards, welcome to our government's way of dealing with unemployment, im afraid you're just a number in their eyes. you could always develop a err emm cough*;) to create some space for yourself in order to find what you want. i wish you the very best of luck

QuestionHere

I am tormented. Their website says I will "receive support to advise me of job opportunitites ( in line with my personal development plan) and (will) match my skills to their live database of job vacancies - but they have stated repeatedly that they do not cater for my level of expectations or the roles I want to have. I am not looking (at the moment) for a 70K job or for a highly obtuse area or one area only - they have admitted they do not cater for 'people like me" - surely there is something here I can protest about successfully? has no-one else (without a cough - thanks) got out of this horrendous system? Didn't they abolish slavery a long time back? thanks for replies. |this is the same private company that they made I Daniel Blane about.

Kristopherus

If you were "chosen" as you say, then by whom were you chosen?

QuestionHere

Kristopherus wrote: »

If you were "chosen" as you say, then by whom were you chosen?

I queried that. Firstly I was told 'everyone' was on it/had to go on it. Then I was told 500 people out of 200,000 were 'randomly selected'. I asked to be un- selected if it was random & they said they didn't cater for people of my level. They gave an institutionalised reply. Has nobody out there really not got off this waste of time & money sxheme? The government is going to pay them for two years even if I get a job myself & they say I am too qualified to help? In the name of God.

Fleawuss

I have no experience of it but you need to get a sense of hitting back. Formal letters to ministers, TDs and the Data Protection commissioner; the latter because they refused to supply you with personal information requested. Joe Duffy may be interested as well.

You certainly have a point about their admission that they do not cater for people like you. You should include that in your letters that the scheme has been misapplied. And the Ombudsman especially. Start there. Good luck.

Kristopherus

I suggest you take your complaint to the top. Write to Ms.Mouna Kenzaoui

Chief Executive Officer, Seetec Ireland, Head Office,2nd Floor, Riverside

Development, Mulhuddart Village, Dublin 15.

Explain you situation and ask nicely to be taken off their list as they cannot provide a service to/for you.You could also mention the office and staff member who organised your incarceration.

QuestionHere

Fleawuss wrote: »

I have no experience of it but you need to get a sense of hitting back. Formal letters to ministers, TDs and the Data Protection commissioner; the latter because they refused to supply you with personal information requested. Joe Duffy may be interested as well.

You certainly have a point about their admission that they do not cater for people like you. You should include that in your letters that the scheme has been misapplied. And the Ombudsman especially. Start there. Good luck.

While I do all that I will be struck off & destitute. I have a mortgage to pay & sickeningly that could go on forever. Varaskar ( minister for social protection) will only see me if I am a constituent & ithers say they cannot interfere in particular /specific cases. The ombudsman is a great theory but they only do government staff - Seetec are a private UK company. The SW security man told me that anyone who got a solicitor involved in appeals won them but I don't know what this includes - or how much it might cost. I am totally ****** & desperate.

Has anybody out there had a solucitor get involved in a SW appeal?

infogiver

QuestionHere wrote: »

While I do all that I will be struck off & destitute. I have a mortgage to pay & sickeningly that could go on forever. Varaskar ( minister for social protection) will only see me if I am a constituent & ithers say they cannot interfere in particular /specific cases. The ombudsman is a great theory but they only do government staff - Seetec are a private UK company. The SW security man told me that anyone who got a solicitor involved in appeals won them but I don't know what this includes - or how much it might cost. I am totally ****** & desperate.

Has anybody out there had a solucitor get involved in a SW appeal?

Have you been refused a payment? SW Appeals only deal only in with SW applicants who have been refused a payment. If you have been refused a payment then you would have a letter stating the fact that you are refused, and under which legislation you were refused, and offering you the opportunity to appeal, if the appeal legislation covers that payment.
If you are unhappy with your interaction with Seetec, for example if you feel that their staff were unprofessional or discriminated against you for any reason then you should ask then for their complaints procedure, commence the complaints procedure and if you are still dissatisfied then you can make a complaint to the Ombudsman.
The same applies to SW staff. If you are unhappy with the way they have applied themselves in relation to your claim, then go down the complaints procedure, culminating in the Ombudsan.
If you disagree with the legislation surrounding SW then you can either lobby your TD to have the legislation changed, or if funds permit, take an expensive legal route which may culminate in the European courts.