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[article] West Dublin facing "gridlock" by 2023

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    #2
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,355 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    This issue was raised in the Dail yesterday

    https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2017-03-08a.450

    Among the solutions for the N4 and N7 congestion suggested by Shane Ross are 10 minute DARTs and Luas BXD......


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    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    I did not think the Dart went alongside the M50, N7, or the N4, neither does the BXD line. What was he talking about?


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    Last Stop
    Registered Users Posts: 920 ✭✭✭Last Stop


    A new liffey crossing between the M50 and lucan is badly needed. However this would become a toll dodging route.
    Would a public transport only bridge here with frequent buses and the provision for (as in include the tracks while its being built rather than retrofitting) Metro West eventually do much to ease the problem?


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    marno21
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    I did not think the Dart went alongside the M50, N7, or the N4, neither does the BXD line. What was he talking about?

    I regularly post here about how bad Ross's knowledge of transport and the issues around the city and country are scandalously bad. This post further backs it up.


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    LeinsterDub
    Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    marno21 wrote: »
    Thoughts on how it can be improved?
    Step 1 Wait for the city to grind to a halt
    Step 2 Act like this came totally out of the blue
    Step 3 Half arse some infrastructure project
    Step 4 Take credit for the project
    Step 5 Wait for the city to grind to a halt again
    Step 6 Fix infrastructure project in some half arsed way
    Step 7 Take credit again
    Step 8 return to step 1


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    D.L.R.
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    Well, so long as New Ross is bypassed. That's the main thing.


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    D Trent
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    D.L.R. wrote: »
    Well, so long as New Ross is bypassed. That's the main thing.

    Now if only the other facking 'New Ross' was bypassed as minister of transport that'd be ,eh
    that'd be great 😡


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    Middle Man
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Middle Man


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Step 1 Wait for the city to grind to a halt
    Step 2 Act like this came totally out of the blue
    Step 3 Half arse some infrastructure project
    Step 4 Take credit for the project
    Step 5 Wait for the city to grind to a halt again
    Step 6 Fix infrastructure project in some half arsed way
    Step 7 Take credit again
    Step 8 return to step 1

    Step 1 - Let me run this country!


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    FishOnABike
    Registered Users Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    A national spatial strategy with properly planned regional development would help alleviate the unbalanced development of the country and alleviate Dublin's impending gridlock. Hmmm....... where have I heard that before?


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 11,614 ✭ [Deleted User]


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    Step 1 Wait for the city to grind to a halt
    Step 2 Act like this came totally out of the blue
    Step 3 Half arse some infrastructure project
    Step 4 Take credit for the project
    Step 5 Get reelected on foot of these new infrastructure changes
    Step 6 Plan for infrastructure changes to be completed just after the next election(If it fixes things and you are in power, take credit, if it doesnt fix things and you arent in power, criticise from the opposition the sitting government over the plans you made yourself,
    Step 7 Wait for the city to grind to a halt again
    Step 8 Criticise from the opposition the sitting government
    Step 9 Sitting government fix infrastructure project in some half arsed way
    Step 10 Criticise from the opposition the sitting governments attempt to take credit again
    Step 11 Electorate grows tired of the sitting governments inability to fix the problem. General election is called and our friend is voted back in to power

    FYP


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    beauf
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    Last Stop wrote: »
    A new liffey crossing between the M50 and lucan is badly needed. However this would become a toll dodging route.
    Would a public transport only bridge here with frequent buses and the provision for (as in include the tracks while its being built rather than retrofitting) Metro West eventually do much to ease the problem?

    The solution to too many cars is never more cars.

    Yet the planners seems hell bent on bringing as much traffic as they can through DW.


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