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Charity spending

  • 03-03-2017 12:35pm
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    Will be doing some work for a charity free of charge as it's for a good cause, was interested in the funding they get so looked them up and got following stats..
    Total Income: €6.4m
    State funds: €3.6m
    Donations: €2.8m
    Salaries: €3.6m
    CEO : €98,867
    Where money goes: 20% admin and operational 80% charitable activity

    What I don't get is that it shows 80% of funds as going to charitable activity, how can this be if 3.6m is going to salaries from total of 6.4m, does the figure exclude salaries or am I missing something?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Some of those working for the charity may be office / admin based, but many others may be going out doing 'charitable' work.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Yes, the 20% admin would mean that these people weren't directly carrying out charitable activity but purely administration behind the scenes. It is a necessary part of any large organisation though. 20% is low but it should be closer to 15%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Salaries might go towards a nutritionist/ nurse/ case officer.

    Theyre being paid to do charitable works

    Therefore the salary expense is charitable works.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Glenster wrote: »
    Salaries might go towards a nutritionist/ nurse/ case officer.

    Theyre being paid to do charitable works

    Therefore the salary expense is charitable works.

    good point, I suppose that would be it..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I'd imagine a good bit of that admin was involved in raising funds. There's a whole for profit parasite industry there. And all those companies making the poverty porn ads. :mad:


    Charity shops are similar. recent article somewhere on this and it was depressing how much of the income goes in overheads.
    The landlord gets rent. The ESB gets paid too. Disposing of unwanted donations or crap costs money too. My bin company charges me 50c a kilo for the black bin so I can see how stingy people would fob junk on charities every time - dastards.

    AFAIK Charities don't pay rates so that's money the landlord saves BTW, I'd like to think they always pass this saving on.


    On a positive note
    Despite it's faults Irishaid still rates very highly for it's real world impact compared to the strings attached of other countries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Will be doing some work for a charity free of charge as it's for a good cause, was interested in the funding they get so looked them up and got following stats..
    Total Income: €6.4m
    State funds: €3.6m
    Donations: €2.8m
    Salaries: €3.6m
    CEO : €98,867
    Where money goes: 20% admin and operational 80% charitable activity

    What I don't get is that it shows 80% of funds as going to charitable activity, how can this be if 3.6m is going to salaries from total of 6.4m, does the figure exclude salaries or am I missing something?

    These figures are ....

    Good for you doing this. wish the CEOs would too..

    There is no charity I would give to. I no longer use VdeP but do support small local charity shops in small towns by giving goods I have spare and buying small things from them.

    Any cent I can spare goes straight to my family working overseas direct with the very poor, and taking no wages. Living dirt poor themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Seems like a good business to be in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭Lyle Lanley


    Graces7 wrote: »
    These figures are ....

    Good for you doing this. wish the CEOs would too..

    There is no charity I would give to. I no longer use VdeP but do support small local charity shops in small towns by giving goods I have spare and buying small things from them.

    Any cent I can spare goes straight to my family working overseas direct with the very poor, and taking no wages. Living dirt poor themselves.
    Don't understand peoples objections to charity CEOs receiving a fair wage, its a full time job. How can you expect someone to take it on voluntarily? Even if they did they'd most likely not be qualified to do it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Graces7 wrote: »
    These figures are ....

    Good for you doing this. wish the CEOs would too..

    There is no charity I would give to. I no longer use VdeP but do support small local charity shops in small towns by giving goods I have spare and buying small things from them.

    Any cent I can spare goes straight to my family working overseas direct with the very poor, and taking no wages. Living dirt poor themselves.

    I disagree on this one. CEO's are professional people. If you want someone to do a good job they have to be paid. Some like Angela Kerins completely take the piss but the 98k mentioned by OP above is I suspect a lot less than the CEO would get working for a private company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭SILVAMAN


    On a positive note
    Despite it's faults Irishaid still rates very highly for it's real world impact compared to the strings attached of other countries.

    Yep read recently from a list of pledges from countries to help Syrian refugees, Ireland gave €22 million, the highest per capita of any country in the world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    I'd imagine a good bit of that admin was involved in raising funds. There's a whole for profit parasite industry there. And all those companies making the poverty porn ads. :mad:


    Charity shops are similar. recent article somewhere on this and it was depressing how much of the income goes in overheads.
    The landlord gets rent. The ESB gets paid too. Disposing of unwanted donations or crap costs money too. My bin company charges me 50c a kilo for the black bin so I can see how stingy people would fob junk on charities every time - dastards.

    AFAIK Charities don't pay rates so that's money the landlord saves BTW, I'd like to think they always pass this saving on.


    On a positive note
    Despite it's faults Irishaid still rates very highly for it's real world impact compared to the strings attached of other countries.

    The landlord doesn't save money on rates because the lease holder pays the rates as they do for water, esb and waste.


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