Separate records of banns?

pinkypinky

So I'm chatting to a distant cousin of mine who sent an update of her family tree on Ancestry yesterday. There was several pieces of information I did not have, and I went through her stuff, asking where she had sourced various bits. Some of it I felt was too much of a leap (e.g. baptism in St Andrew's of the right named person, when he lived all his life in the North Docks; selecting someone from Griffiths because of the right name seemingly without other corroborating proof - there are multiple same named entries in the area)

She'd also found parents' names of an 1844 marriage in Tinryland parish in Carlow. The parish records do not have the parents' names and she's just told me that she found the names in the banns.

I'm not aware of there being separate banns available in general. She's based in the UK, so it's not a case of her knocking on the church's door.

Any thoughts?

Mollymoo19

Funny Pinky, I just read a case yesterday referencing Banns for a COE parish in London and wondered about the equivalent records here. But, I don't think they've generally survived, especially for RC parishes. It might be worth checking out further for an individual parish - e.g. see NLI site for St Finbar’s in Cork - http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0040 - There may be more!

pinkypinky

I have sent the parish an email to check.

pedroeibar1

pinkypinky wrote: »

So I'm chatting to a distant cousin of mine who sent an update of her family tree on Ancestry yesterday. There was several pieces of information I did not have, and I went through her stuff, asking where she had sourced various bits. Some of it I felt was too much of a leap (e.g. baptism in St Andrew's of the right named person, when he lived all his life in the North Docks; selecting someone from Griffiths because of the right name seemingly without other corroborating proof - there are multiple same named entries in the area)

She'd also found parents' names of an 1844 marriage in Tinryland parish in Carlow. The parish records do not have the parents' names and she's just told me that she found the names in the banns.

I'm not aware of there being separate banns available in general. She's based in the UK, so it's not a case of her knocking on the church's door.

Any thoughts?

'Smart matches' in Ancestry have a lot to answer for!! I wonder if the distant cousin is confusing banns with Marriage Licence Bonds? e.g. in the early 1700's my lot are centered around Limerick so I have several ancestors listed in the Killaloe MLB registers.

pinkypinky

I think you could be onto something with that idea...I suspect she's lifted details from another tree, which has no sources. But none of this explains where these other names came from.

shanew

I'd be very doubtful about this too - I dont think I've ever seen parents names mentioned in Banns in English (CofE) records I've searched either (mostly Cambridgeshire & Yorkshire). Usually names of bride & groom, where each lived, often just 'otp' (of this parish), and sometimes marital condition for each.