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Selling car for deceased relative with NO log book

  • 02-03-2017 3:57pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭


    Hey all

    Just wondered what the quickest way to do this is. My grandfather passed and my Mum has asked me to sell the car. There is no log book that we can find. Just wondered what others have done in this situation?

    According to citizens information: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/change_of_ownership.html I have to do a process that reads like it could potentially be quite lengthy and involves a solicitor or a commissioner of oaths.

    I had considered just completing an RF134 form and signing my Grandad's name on it. I know that's not technically legal but I can imagine people do that all the time?

    Also, on the RF134 form - is the log book the 'Registration Certificate RF101' or the 'registration book'?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,297 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Dont you have to get the forms stamped in the barracks, when applying for replacement documents?
    And sign that all info is correct?
    You could get into a spot of bother if the guard asks for your ID and it doesn't match the name on the form.
    Safer to go with the proper procedure. Even if its more hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Your best bet would be to ring the department of transport in shannon and ask their advice


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Monokne wrote: »
    Hey all

    Just wondered what the quickest way to do this is. My grandfather passed and my Mum has asked me to sell the car. There is no log book that we can find. Just wondered what others have done in this situation?

    According to citizens information: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/change_of_ownership.html I have to do a process that reads like it could potentially be quite lengthy and involves a solicitor or a commissioner of oaths.

    I had considered just completing an RF134 form and signing my Grandad's name on it. I know that's not technically legal but I can imagine people do that all the time?

    Also, on the RF134 form - is the log book the 'Registration Certificate RF101' or the 'registration book'?


    It sounds a lot worse than it is. A solicitor would have it sorted for you quite easily. There must be an executor of the will etc. They'll have experience in this type of thing. I wouldn't go down the road of signing your Grandad's name etc. you could end up in a world of trouble especially if your Grandad's estate hasn't been settled etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You would imagine any potential buyer would surely want to see some sort of ID (driver's license) from the seller to make sure that it matches the name on the car's log book. Then again there are plenty of people out there that don't do any sort of background checks before handing over large sums of money for cars in the likes of shopping centre car parks .

    There is a procedure for this situation to do it properly but it involves a bit more legwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭Monokne


    Update!

    I found the log book, so thankfully fraud will not be necessary.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Just to add some knowledge for future searches.
    The executor needs to apply for a duplicate VRC an include the death cert and copy of the will with his/her name on it.

    If it can be sent to the executor at the deceased address it easier. If not, a letter explaining this and a proof of the executors address will allow a complete change of details....

    ....at least in Dublin. Other CoCo's may differ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Monokne wrote: »
    Update!

    I found the log book, so thankfully fraud will not be necessary.

    If your grandfather made a will and your mother is the executor, get her to sign the log book on behalf of your grandfather. If there is no will make sure all of family are in full agreement with the sale process and what to do with the proceeds or it could get messy.


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