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Where to get OS maps?

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  • 02-03-2017 2:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭


    Is it worth getting them laminated?

    Are they A4 or A3?

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl




  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    me_irl wrote: »

    Just to add.

    I want full sheet maps, not something that is folded up like a road atlas.

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Just to add.

    I want full sheet maps, not something that is folded up like a road atlas.

    Thanks

    Surely this depends on what level of detail / levels, or scale you require?

    I think your best bet is getting on to OSI themselves (from this page).
    Available as a Paper or Digital product. Please contact digitals@osi.ie for further information or visit our Map Shop in the Phoenix Park or any of our Map Agents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    1:50k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl




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  • Registered Users Posts: 21,427 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    The 1:50k maps aren't A4, A3 or anything DIN standard at all. The folded maps are approx 99cm x 76cm of which approx. 84cm x 64cm is actual map and the rest is for the legend and other information.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Alun wrote: »
    The 1:50k maps aren't A4, A3 or anything DIN standard at all. The folded maps are approx 99cm x 76cm of which approx. 84cm x 64cm is actual map and the rest is for the legend and other information.

    Or they awkward folding them out in wind and rain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    What are you looking for them for? given its outdoor pursuits forum I'm guessing hiking. They can be awkward folding but you can often prefold them to cover the area you will be walking in and put in map case.
    There may also be some other maps that would suit you
    http://www.eastwestmapping.ie/ have maps of the wicklow mountains designed for hillwalkers


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Ya walks, hikes and maybe a bit of camping at some stage if weather was decent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,427 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Or they awkward folding them out in wind and rain?
    Prefold them to cover the area you want to cover and pop in a decent map case, Ortlieb make the best ones.


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  • Posts: 281 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, get them laminated. You'll need something robust and the tag 'weatherproof paper' is nonsense.

    I got mine a few years back from a crowd in the UK but it looks like they don't do them anymore.

    The non-laminated ones are a good price @ Jacksons and

    I haven't bought them from GreatOutdoors but they offer the laminated ones


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Got the non laminated map from osi today. Very quick delivery. Around €7 and €3/4 delivery.

    It is has to be folded out like a normal map.

    I got a map case on amazon.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Book Depository is generally cheaper than OSI themselves for OSI maps (and delivery is free) but finding the map you're looking for on the Book Depository website can sometimes be a bit tricky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    For outdoors I prefer Eastwest as their maps are a little better detailed for the walker plus they physically are a little harder wearing. For whats it worth, they fit into my Craghopper Kiwi leg pockets nicely :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭wildgreen


    For outdoors I prefer Eastwest as their maps are a little better detailed for the walker plus they physically are a little harder wearing. For whats it worth, they fit into my Craghopper Kiwi leg pockets nicely :)

    I bought one of the EastWest Wicklow maps and it effectively fell apart after an hour in light rain. I went back to the shop afterwards but there was nothing written on the map saying that they were water resistant.

    Anyone know of a good place in Dublin to get them laminated?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    wildgreen wrote: »
    I bought one of the EastWest Wicklow maps and it effectively fell apart after an hour in light rain. I went back to the shop afterwards but there was nothing written on the map saying that they were water resistant. Anyone know of a good place in Dublin to get them laminated?

    Hi Wildgreen, EastWest Mapping maps are mostly available on Enduro paper, which is a thin plastic film coated with paper pulp, this is best described as a water resistant paper. It's a tough paper though needs protection in the wet as the paper will rub off.

    However we have two current maps in temporary reprints on ordinary standard papers: these are Lugnaquilla & Glendalough and Wicklow East. These are much less durable and require careful folding and enclosure in two clear plastic bags or a proprietary map case. The intention was that these reprints would only be needed for a few months pending a new series, but it looks like they may have to stop the gap for a while longer.

    Re lamination, this company comes recommended by customers:

    The Map Shop (Lamination Specialists) Ltd
    Unit 12 Canal Walk,
    Parkwest Industrial Estate,
    Nangor Road,
    Dublin 12.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Hi Wildgreen, EastWest Mapping maps are mostly available on Enduro paper, which is a thin plastic film coated with paper pulp, this is best described as a water resistant paper. It's a tough paper though needs protection in the wet as the paper will rub off.

    However we have two current maps in temporary reprints on ordinary standard papers: these are Lugnaquilla & Glendalough and Wicklow East. These are much less durable and require careful folding and enclosure in two clear plastic bags or a proprietary map case. The intention was that these reprints would only be needed for a few months pending a new series, but it looks like they may have to stop the gap for a while longer.

    Re lamination, this company comes recommended by customers:

    The Map Shop (Lamination Specialists) Ltd
    Unit 12 Canal Walk,
    Parkwest Industrial Estate,
    Nangor Road,
    Dublin 12.

    Any plans for maps of the Galtees or Comeraghs? These are major Irish mountain ranges which for some inexplicable reason no one has ever produced decent mapping of. I know very many people would appreciate proper maps of these mountain ranges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Quackster wrote: »
    Any plans for maps of the Galtees or Comeraghs? These are major Irish mountain ranges which for some inexplicable reason no one has ever produced decent mapping of. I know very many people would appreciate proper maps of these mountain ranges.

    Maybe. There is significant cost and time/ effort required to produce good quality maps. With no public funding, can the sales of maps of such areas be sufficient to recover the investment? That's the question. It may be possible with a different approach to fieldwork, with help from local volunteers/ clubs etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭ShadyAcres


    Quackster wrote:
    Any plans for maps of the Galtees or Comeraghs? These are major Irish mountain ranges which for some inexplicable reason no one has ever produced decent mapping of. I know very many people would appreciate proper maps of these mountain ranges.


    OSI map either 73 or 74 , can't quite remember but there is definitely a 1-50000 map on the market which you can buy online or at the OSI store in the phoenix park where they will have the laminated version or will laminate an existing map for you. easons also sell the OSI maps.
    Personally I would pay the extra for a laminated version as the paper version is crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    ShadyAcres wrote: »
    OSI map either 73 or 74 , can't quite remember but there is definitely a 1-50000 map on the market which you can buy online

    True, but poster did ask re 'decent mapping'!! i.e. a map that reflects what you encounter on the ground :)

    OSI 1:50,000 maps are much better than the old half inch or one inch maps but there are two issues with them 1) they're primarily an office solution based on aerial photography and like it or not, most map user operate at ground level as opposed to looking down from c.3,000 metres and 2) the maps are based on aerial photography flown in the 1990s and landscapes change, particularly with plantations.


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  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,744 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    True, but poster did ask re 'decent mapping'!! i.e. a map that reflects what you encounter on the ground :)

    OSI 1:50,000 maps are much better than the old half inch or one inch maps but there are two issues with them 1) they're primarily an office solution based on aerial photography and like it or not, most map user operate at ground level as opposed to looking down from c.3,000 metres and 2) the maps are based on aerial photography flown in the 1990s and landscapes change, particularly with plantations.

    Exactly! There's no comparison between the OSI mapping and mapping based on proper ground surveying and that properly map terrain like orienteering maps do (such as EastWest and Harvey).

    I can understand that the unfavorable demographics compared to, say, the UK mean there's no pot of gold in producing these maps and I'm very appreciative of what you've produced so far - I make a point of purchasing a copy of every new edition!

    Outside of Kerry and Mayo, I do think that the Galtees and Comeraghs are the two remaining major black holes in terms of 'decent' mapping coverage of the country (if you stretch the meaning of 'decent' to include OSI 1:25K mapping!) and I hope you manage to get there before the OSI do!


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