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Farm Services Business

  • 02-03-2017 12:40pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭


    Hi All,

    I was thinking of setting up a business a long the lines of farm call out service in what I dont know, something like hoof trimming, AI, scanning etc.

    Can people give me their opinions on what there would be a demand for, I don`t want to do something that there is already a lot of people doing.

    Thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭PMU


    relief milking at weekends


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    You would get plenty work cleaning out Calf pens this time of year! Very little training required. Ai would be next easiest to master, hoof care and scanning would me much harder to master and in general you would want to be at it everyday for 2 or 3 years before you would be any good at it. Plenty of poor/mediocre lads doing them jobs as it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Demand depends purely on your locality, if there is a void there, or say the existing service is not adequate or too expensive. In terms of what service to pick, the economics of it, and how much money you can potentially make should be down the list to what you actually want to do, enjoy doing, and are good at! If your crap at hoof pairing it doesn't matter how much of a gap in the local market there is, you'll lose interest and you won't last long at it.

    Nothing beats getting practical experience also, even if it's unpaid work, you'll quickly find out what you like and more importantly dont like doing, without having invested any capital. You'll also build up contacts this way, and get a decent insight into your potential market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    AI cheapest to set up in and probably most money and easiest work wise and if you get good straws it will have a good demand. You need Dept approval to operate.

    Scanning is a 10k investment and hard to get a name most lads let vet do it and put it on the bill.

    Hooves plenty demand and work for good guys but hard work. Try pairing a LM 5 year old bull's hooves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    What about grass measuring service. Cant be too many at it. I think alot of people use the same reliable people for hoofcare/scanning etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman


    Most farmers would measure own grass Whelan I reckon; its very easy.

    Agree most lads sloe to change to a new lad esp for scanning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭barnaman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    barnaman wrote: »
    Most farmers would measure own grass Whelan I reckon; its very easy.

    Agree most lads sloe to change to a new lad esp for scanning
    I get a lad in to measure mine. He does a good few other farms too. At least its done, if I have time I will go around with him ,or do it myself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Help in filling out paperwork for Bord Bia inspections.
    Most farmers by the nature of the work are hands on but run a mile from paperwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    Dehirning. Weighing. Body condition scoring. Low set up costs. Finding a continously flow of work through the year in what's needed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Keepgrowing


    Hoof trmming and dehorning, massive demand for both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    How about offering a service of bringing calves to the mart for farmers. I know I dont have time to go at this time of year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Hi Guys, thanks for the replies. Anything I can make money on I will do! :D:D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Fencing maintenance could be another one, leaky JFC troughs could keep you busy too. Even dosing/vaccinating cattle or sheep, there would be a demand where labour is short. Great to see a lad with a bit of initiative.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭50HX


    weighing scales - weigh cattle ahead of transfers to the mart- farmer then can say a set price & you can sell for him/her - esp for part time farmers

    BPS applications - ( you'd want to be v confident & capable though on this one)

    BDGP Paperwork, AI advice

    if you could make up/source chemcial stores/ medicine cabinets& Bord bia signs at a reasonable price (i'd buy from you:D)

    build a reputation at low cost things and then maybe work your way to scanning etc

    best of luck with it - great to see a bit of get up & go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Having a good reputation is key. Like previously said before relief milking and A.I would be a safe bet. Also if you like paper work there's plenty of that type of work to do on farms. There's an endless list of possibilities. There's a lot of fencing contractors around but the likes of quad spraying and weed wiping isn't as common. But it depends on what your budget is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    50HX wrote: »
    weighing scales - weigh cattle ahead of transfers to the mart- farmer then can say a set price & you can sell for him/her - esp for part time farmers

    BPS applications - ( you'd want to be v confident & capable though on this one)

    BDGP Paperwork, AI advice

    if you could make up/source chemcial stores/ medicine cabinets& Bord bia signs at a reasonable price (i'd buy from you:D)

    build a reputation at low cost things and then maybe work your way to scanning etc

    best of luck with it - great to see a bit of get up & go

    Hi 50HX,

    Thanks for your thoughts. What are average size chemical cabinets selling for? Also signage prices?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭50HX


    ford4610 wrote: »
    Hi 50HX,

    Thanks for your thoughts. What are average size chemical cabinets selling for? Also signage prices?

    small chemical cabinets are starting at 200, there's a JFC/similar larger one from 300 up - sickening prices for a plastic container

    small signs from 15 and larger 25-30

    have a look at the dept of agri website re requirements for chemical cabinets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I get a lad in to measure mine. He does a good few other farms too. At least its done, if I have time I will go around with him ,or do it myself

    whelan2, what kinda money are lads charging for this service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    The thing about offering these services is farmers will usually go for an experienced person. Unless you are experienced in whatever service you're offering, it could be a slow road to be on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    ford4610 wrote: »
    whelan2, what kinda money are lads charging for this service?

    Pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Freeze branding would be another one, not sure if it was mentioned before


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Bejaysus I thought of a good one and I bet you would get work.:D

    This is the ad.

    "Person available to clean out dung from houses with a sprong.
    I have my own sprong but charge per the hour not the job but I am a self motivated and diligent worker.

    If interested contact 087 ..........."

    Guaranteed employment.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭50HX


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Bejaysus I thought of a good one and I bet you would get work.:D

    This is the ad.

    "Person available to clean out dung from houses with a sprong.
    I have my own sprong but charge per the hour not the job but I am a self motivated and diligent worker.

    If interested contact 087 ..........."

    Guaranteed employment.:p


    i'd be no good at that.....only know how to use a grape.......:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Lads, I was talking to a farmer with a good business head about providing a weighing service he said that there would be no demand as people with a biggish operation has there own scales..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭huwboy


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Bejaysus I thought of a good one and I bet you would get work.:D

    This is the ad.

    "Person available to clean out dung from houses with a sprong.
    I have my own sprong but charge per the hour not the job but I am a self motivated and diligent worker.

    If interested contact 087 ..........."

    Guaranteed employment.:p

    Spent many a school holidays at that job! Toughest job on the farm i would say. If only i'd got paid for it, would be a millionaire by now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Any other ideas greatly appreciated.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Pulling ragweed 😱😱


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    ford4610 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    I was thinking of setting up a business a long the lines of farm call out service in what I dont know, something like hoof trimming, AI, scanning etc.

    Can people give me their opinions on what there would be a demand for, I don`t want to do something that there is already a lot of people doing.

    Thanks.

    Sheep shearing. there's not enough of them around.....my shearer does 10000 sheep at €2.25 in about 3mth


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Sheep shearing. there's not enough of them around.....my shearer does 10000 sheep at €2.25 in about 3mth

    Good money but he's earned it. If he's not fit now he will be in 3 months.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Sheep shearing. there's not enough of them around.....my shearer does 10000 sheep at €2.25 in about 3mth

    How long would it take you to learn how to shear?
    I can't, and don't want to learn how to, just wondering... ;)

    Tis tough work tho, I would agree that shearers earn their money...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    How long would it take you to learn how to shear?
    I can't, and don't want to learn how to, just wondering... ;)

    Tis tough work tho, I would agree that shearers earn their money...

    Most do a two day course and and practise after that,,,,plenty of small flocks around to do the first year, like that it takes a while to build a business.

    My shearer had to diversify in 2008 as he was in the joinery, the good money in the buildings is beckoning him back again now so how long he shears I don't know, He's 37 so he won't stick the pace of shearing he's at much longer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Most do a two day course and and practise after that,,,,plenty of small flocks around to do the first year, like that it takes a while to build a business.

    My shearer had to diversify in 2008 as he was in the joinery, the good money in the buildings is beckoning him back again now so how long he shears I don't know, He's 37 so he won't stick the pace of shearing he's at much longer

    Its a tough job. Our shearer does shears in Ireland, Oz and Norway every year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Do those sheep shearers end up crippled after years at it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    tanko wrote: »
    Do those sheep shearers end up crippled after years at it?

    Or fitter than anyone else, they need to mind themselves and keep fit during the off season....like any athlete really.
    The Godfrey bowen method of shearing is a good technique


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,211 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    My cousin travels the world shearing. Is based in Australia now. Has done very well financially out of it. He has 2 kids now so doesnt travel as far. He's 30& is a very hard worker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Icelandicseige


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Or fitter than anyone else, they need to mind themselves and keep fit during the off season....like any athlete really.
    The Godfrey bowen method of shearing is a good technique

    Have seen sheep shearing competitions and everyone one of them are going to have back problems at some stage..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Someone to come in and spray under fences . I think I pay someone to do that !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Massive demand in our parts for Quad Bike Operator , specially operating in wettish ground . Fert spreading , spraying ,reseeding .One needs a word on when the job will be done.Again well done on initiative , i doubt you will have idle day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Hoof pairer.
    With expanding dairy herd unlimited work and good wages.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Fabricator, general handy man. Iv concrete to pour, welding, gutters. Will never be done waiting for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭Icelandicseige


    Track9 wrote: »
    Massive demand in our parts for Quad Bike Operator , specially operating in wettish ground . Fert spreading , spraying ,reseeding .One needs a word on when the job will be done.Again well done on initiative , i doubt you will have idle day.

    How much would someone with there own quad and fert spreader charge for spreading ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Price to hire a Quad with driver . This seems to mirror cost on JCB ( 25-30 ) Per Hour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    A quad operating service seems to be low cost, I am paying 30 euro a hour to do spraying if you consider that compared to a digger which is around the same rate a hour your costs for a quad would be much lower.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Track9 wrote: »
    Massive demand in our parts for Quad Bike Operator , specially operating in wettish ground . Fert spreading , spraying ,reseeding .One needs a word on when the job will be done.Again well done on initiative , i doubt you will have idle day.

    What part of the country are you in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Am in Co Cork , the wetter part of it where Quads are favoured over heavy tractors :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Thanks for the ideas guys, still deciding on what to go with as I will need a constant flow of work.

    Please keep the ideas coming!:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Would u consider a part time job ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭ford4610


    Would u consider a part time job ?

    I have a full time job engineering, want to do something farming related/work for myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭The part time boy


    Fair play to ya. Would the plan be to depend full time on farming and some other serves and leave the engineering job


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