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Virgin Media installing new cables, can I choose supplier?

  • 28-02-2017 4:16pm
    #1
    mrcheez
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    Virgin Media are installing new physical cables in our area (we don't currently have any broadband beyond 2MB ADSL).

    Once installed are we limited to going with Virgin Media for broadband using these new cables, or can I choose a different provider like Magnet.ie etc ?

    Just that I've heard Virgin customer support are somewhat lacking.


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  • #2
    rob808
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭rob808


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Virgin Media are installing new physical cables in our area (we don't currently have any broadband beyond 2MB ADSL).

    Once installed are we limited to going with Virgin Media for broadband using these new cables, or can I choose a different provider like Magnet.ie etc ?

    Just that I've heard Virgin customer support are somewhat lacking.
    Hi yes you would have to go with virgin media as they dont share there cables with other ISP.There broadband pretty good way better than what you have at the moment.


  • #3
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,076 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    rob808 wrote: »
    Hi yes you would have to go with virgin media as they dont share there cables with other ISP.There broadband pretty good way better than what you have at the moment.

    Ah yeah definitely better, but would be nice to be able to price around as well.

    We'll be a "captive audience" for certain anyway :pac:


  • #4
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Coincidentally, recent Comreg Market Review consultation on Wholesale Local Access (WLA) and Wholesale Central Access (WCA) to networks. Potential wholesale access to Virgin Media's CATV network is included in the consultation.

    https://www.comreg.ie/publication/market-reviews-wholesale-local-access-wholesale-central-access/

    Consultation - Market Reviews: Wholesale Local Access and Wholesale Central Access
    WIK-Consult Report - Technical feasibility of providing wholesale broadband access over a cable TV infrastructure (EC Market 3)


  • #5
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    While technically it makes sense (Go 3.1, give OLOs a fixed modem and a VLAN to a handoff) I really cant see LG being happy at all if they attempted it. They couldnt ensure their current profit margins with retail competition on the same network.

    Seems like the Dutch & EU have paved the way on this one.
    http://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter/berec/download/0/5049-berec-opinion-on-phase-ii-investigation-_0.pdf
    The WIK study clarifies – and this is not contested –
    that the DOCSIS 3.x standard can be improved to provide VULA, but such a
    development is not in the hands of a single cable operator, even of a major group such
    as Liberty Global. All the members of Cable labs (the normalisation body for DOCSIS
    and Euro DOCSIS) must agree to proceed with such a development. As a
    consequence, even if UPC/Ziggo would want to develop a VULA offer, it needs the
    approval from a large number of third parties.

    WIK clarified that in their view such a process would require
    at least 10 years from now.*
    *2015
    In conclusion, it is BEREC’s opinion that including cable on Market 3a is at best speculative
    rather than prospective and it therefore does not share Commission’s opinion about its serious
    doubts regarding the non-inclusion of cable in Market 3a.
    From a skim they turned it down.


    Whats intersting though is that they can simultaneously encrypt DVB streams so that Virgin could broadcast all channels (say Virgin + Eir + Sky + Vodafone) and then each provider could send keys to STBs for the content they were licenced for. Saves pushing all resellers over to IPTV and hogging a metric tonne of DS bandwidth.


    If SIRO builds its footprint its hard to see how they'll clase VM as having SMP unless they do a lot of build out too.


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