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Liquor licencing registers

  • 24-02-2017 11:10am
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    L1011
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    Does anyone know if the NAI have these or if Revenue still hold on to them? My teetotaller mother isn't the happiest with the amount of publicans in her past :pac: and I'd like to see what records, if any, there are. One allegedly drank away the value of two licences (and most of her husbands income too - he had his own shop). 1890s-1920s for Dublin and Tipperary are what I'd want

    I've a separate reason (social history stuff of sorts) to want to see 1980s/1990s Dublin records. Revenue's Statistics Department were very helpful but all they had to hand was 2010+; I'd imagine old stuff would be in the museum.


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  • #2
    pinkypinky
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    If the catalogue on the NAI website was in any way useful, I'd say check it but as it is, try ringing the NAI and asking to speak to the archivist on duty.

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  • #3
    tabbey
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    L1011 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if the NAI have these or if Revenue still hold on to them? My teetotaller mother isn't the happiest with the amount of publicans in her past :pac: and I'd like to see what records, if any, there are. One allegedly drank away the value of two licences (and most of her husbands income too - he had his own shop). 1890s-1920s for Dublin and Tipperary are what I'd want

    I've a separate reason (social history stuff of sorts) to want to see 1980s/1990s Dublin records. Revenue's Statistics Department were very helpful but all they had to hand was 2010+; I'd imagine old stuff would be in the museum.

    I perused licence registers for the late 1800s in Dublin a few years ago in the NAI.
    They were very hit and miss, some pubs seemed to appear frquently, others rarely. I can only assume that survival rate was patchy. They were filled so poorly that many premises were unidentifiable, as the clerk only completed the names and addresses of the licensee and of the lessor, leaving many details blank.
    In spite of this, they can be useful, as well as interesting for social history. For example, which sergeant held the licence to sell alcohol in the RIC depot, or how Reverend gentlemen in both Ireland and England owned the freehold of many pubs in Dublin.
    Did the faithful in some parish in Somerset, listening to Reverend X condemning the evil of strong liquor, realise that the said preacher derived rental income from a licensed premises in Dublin?
    They are an eye opener!


  • #4
    L1011
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    pinkypinky wrote: »
    If the catalogue on the NAI website was in any way useful, I'd say check it but as it is, try ringing the NAI and asking to speak to the archivist on duty.

    If the catalogue had made any sense I'd not have had to post :pac:

    The older ones being poor is what I was expecting but I'll still go take a look. For the later stuff (which isn't genealogy related) I may actually be able to rely on Thoms (or even the Golden Pages if Pearse Street has those).


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