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  • 24-02-2017 7:38am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭


    Hi all, i just had a baby and am returning to work in two weeks. I really want a chance so applied for two jobs. Ive an offer on both but really torn. Job A offers all benefits for me and my family, base of 40k and unlimited comm but hours is 9 to 6. Job B is 40k no real benefits, hours 8 to 4 but its really interesting. if i take job A i wont get to see my baby at all in the evening but job B i will. Job A offers more benefits for my family, isnt that all that really matters? Im just afraod the baby will forget me...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭nazzy


    tt2014 wrote: »
    Hi all, i just had a baby and am returning to work in two weeks. I really want a chance so applied for two jobs. Ive an offer on both but really torn. Job A offers all benefits for me and my family, base of 40k and unlimited comm but hours is 9 to 6. Job B is 40k no real benefits, hours 8 to 4 but its really interesting. if i take job A i wont get to see my baby at all in the evening but job B i will. Job A offers more benefits for my family, isnt that all that really matters? Im just afraod the baby will forget me...

    If you are miserable at work and miss your baby, all the benefits in the world won't compensate for that... Unlimited commission also suggests maybe the hours could get longer and maybe you'll be stuck after six?

    I think the fact that you find Job B really interesting is huge - having job satisfaction is important as you could sit in Job A just longing for home, whereas it sounds with Job B, you will actually enjoy the work life balance.

    I hope the 40k means a comfortable lifestyle for your family and so it is already a decent base, benefits or not.

    Maybe consider long term as well - in terms of possible increments or job security.

    I think your mental health, wellbeing and family time are the main issues there for me. Are the additional benefits and commission worth the additional stress and longer hours? You could always take that type of job in a year or two if you wanted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Your baby is very young you need to be spending as much time as possible with him or her!!

    Jobs will always be there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    Babies don't just go to bed and sleep all night, unless you have that miracle child. You can still have time with your baby with either job.

    Both of the jobs will keep you away from your baby so the question is which one will make that easier for you to deal with. Listen to your heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭tt2014


    I was on 30k with comm but the extra 10k will really help towards saving for our mortgage. We are hoping to buy at the end of the year. I looked at the difference in wage and its only an extra 400 per month, the hours in job A are set but there is a set comm in job b. I just want to give the baby the best of everything but i feel im being selfish by taking job b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭Cunning Stunt


    I say go for job B, OP.  I have recently had to go on a lower hours contract in order to make it home to my kids at a decent hour - less hours of course mean less pay, but I am delighted I did it. Its great to have a few hours to unwind with your little ones when you get home.
    Just make sure you cover yourself & family with a health insurance etc. if they are not included by the company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭ncmc


    I would also gofor job B, time with your baby is so precious, they are small for so little time. It's very depressing getting home at 6:30-7 and having a cranky half hour with them before bed. I think you would get miserable pretty quickly. When I returned to work after having my daughter, I went back on 4 days and took a 20% cut to do so. It leaves things a bit tight, but at this stage, time with my daughter is more important. As a previous poster said, jobs will always be there, your baby will grow up before you know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭milli milli


    ncmc wrote: »
    but at this stage, time with my daughter is more important.

    One of the biggest regrets people on their death beds have is not having spent enough time with their children due to long work hours.
    You will never get that time back.

    Quality of life and work-home balance is more important than the extra benefits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    More interesting work and less hours....

    No brainer for job b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    tt2014 wrote: »
    I was on 30k with comm but the extra 10k will really help towards saving for our mortgage. We are hoping to buy at the end of the year. I looked at the difference in wage and its only an extra 400 per month, the hours in job A are set but there is a set comm in job b. I just want to give the baby the best of everything but i feel im being selfish by taking job b

    You're not being selfish at all, one of the reasons you're attracted to this job is because it will give you more time with your daughter. Hardly selfish!

    OP I wonder is there any option of discussing benefits with the employer, maybe attempt to negotiate something? I'm assuming it's healthcare and pension you're talking about.

    Maybe you could contact the person you've been dealing with and explain you've been offered 2 positions, you want this one but are a little torn as the other role offers a little more.
    You never know, they might agree to include a VHI package or something else in your contract, or offer to add it in after a successful first year or probation period.
    They're hardly going to withdraw the job offer, they'll just say they can't do it if they can't.
    It's worth asking though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    My vote is for job B. More time with your family, an interesting job, and still more pay than you were on before. That's a lot of positives for you and your child. Plus, you're more likely to excel at a job you're interested in - which increases your chances of promotion in the future. Nothing worse than being in a job you resent, especially when you had a choice. It will negatively affect you in and out of work, and extra benefits won't compensate for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭tt2014


    Some really good advice here, i just feel guilty for even going back to work but we are renting so i want to make lots of money and get a house by the end if the year, its the guilt thats getting me, damned if i do, damned if i dont. Im going to ask job b for vhi, its in the hospitality industry so i dont know if it comes as standard. My current employment offers no benefits whatsoever so im going to need to leave eitherway no that baby is here


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Job B and either work your way up to a better salary /benefits in it or keep your eyes peeled for Job C which will have the best of both worlds.

    I work full time and had baby in creche from 11 months. I'm out of the house from 8-6. There is no forgetting I'm mammy, or any loss of attachment or bond. I don't see a difference between the They thrive on the socialisation of other little humans at that age, and need that stimulation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭tt2014


    Well this thread has spoken volumes, looks like its job B! I just cant be away from baby for that long, il just be driven demented with guilt, thank you all so much!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Neyite wrote: »
    Job B and either work your way up to a better salary /benefits in it or keep your eyes peeled for Job C which will have the best of both worlds.

    I work full time and had baby in creche from 11 months. I'm out of the house from 8-6. There is no forgetting I'm mammy, or any loss of attachment or bond. I don't see a difference between the They thrive on the socialisation of other little humans at that age, and need that stimulation.

    I don't wish to come across as judgemental, far from it in fact. We are all just trying to do the best we can in life. However, an 11 month old will certainly feel the missing presence of mother 10 hours a day!! And it certainly will effect attachment, as the attachment process continues up until around 4-5 years old


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I would go for job b. Your working from 8 to 4 so you have time in the evening with your baby. Your getting €40k a year for this job. You have told us you are interested in this type of work so that will help you do well in this job.

    Also in a few years time your child will be in school so these hours will be good then.
    You will be able to bring your child to music, football or to the other interests they may have as they grow up.

    The other job is 9 to 6. I would just say that with unlimited commission jobs or ote jobs you will be expected to hit the ground running. You could have to hard sell a product or service and if you not hitting targets quickly it will be said to you. I have worked in this type of employment and being honest I would not go back to it again. I would also say that their is a good chance you will end up working later or could be expected to meet clients outside these hours.

    I know it is not easy once you have a baby re going back to work but you need to do what is best for you and your family. I can understand that you want to earn a better income due to buying a house. You want and need to keep some type of life for you, your partner and your baby.
    As a friend of mine You work to live - not live to work.


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