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SECRETARIATS RECORD BREAKING RUN 1973

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    barney4001 wrote: »
    You don't see an annihilation like that too often.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    A very good horse but overhyped because of that race. He had only one proper opponent, Sham, the other three in the race were no-hopers.

    "After about three-quarters of a mile, a third of the way through the race, Secretariat increased his pace and pulled ahead rapidly as Sham began to tire. With Pincay easing back to protect the horse, Sham ultimately finished last as Secretariat pulled away to a win recorded at 31 lengths. The time of 2:24 flat remains a world record for 1  1⁄2 miles on a dirt track.
    While Sham did not race again after the Belmont Stakes, he was not retired until July 1973 (a month later) when he pulled up lame after a workout. The cause was a fractured right cannon bone, which was surgically repaired with three screws. "Sham broke a cannonbone," trainer Frank Martin said. "I knew when he run so bad, I knew something was wrong with him," and with that his racing career officially ended.

    Belmont Stakes
    2nd Twice A Prince ... 12th of 13 in the Kentucky Derby
    3rd My Gallant .... 9th of 13 in the Kentucky Derby
    4th Pvt Smiles .... won $45k in 19 starts
    5th Sham

    But on turf the record for 1½ miles (2,414 m) is 60.86 km/h (37.82 mph) by 3-year-old Hawkster at Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, California, USA on 14 October 1989 with a time of 2min 22.8sec.

    Secretariat set the Preakness record in 2012, although the race was run 39 years earlier in 1973
    Upon the finish of the race there was a dispute over the winning time of Secretariat. The electronic Visumatic timer on the field read 1:55, while Daily Racing Form clockers Gene Schwartz and Frank Robinson timed Secretariat at 1: 53 2⁄5, which would have broken the track record. The official fractional times were 25,  48 4⁄5, 1:12, and 1: 36 1⁄5, while the Daily Racing Forum timed the fractions at  24 2⁄5, 47, 1: 10 2⁄5, and 1: 35 3⁄5. The next day, Secretariat's trainer Lucien Laurin asked for the videotape to be reviewed because he felt that if Secretariat did run that fast, then "he deserves the record." On May 21, race officials adjusted Secretariat's winning time to 1: 54 2⁄5, becoming the then second fastest time in race history. The time was changed to the time obtained by the official Pimilico timekeeper E.T. McLean per Rule 383 of the Maryland Rules of Racing, which stated the "official timer's time is official." McLean's stopwatch was faster than the Visumatic by three-fifths of a second at each fractional." That same day, a Visumatic official checked the timer and stated that the timer should have actually read 1: 54 4⁄5, rather than 1:55. It was determined that the chart for the Preakness would display McLean's time as the winning time, with the Daily Racing Forum time written next to it, in parenthesis.

    Secretariat's owner Penny Chenery and Maryland Jockey Club president Thomas Chuckas asked the Maryland Racing Commission to review the 1973 Preakness. On June 19, 2012, the commission announced their findings. During a three-hour meeting, the tapes of Secretariat's run and the three new record-holding runs were overlaid by three separate companies from which a total of five analysts reviewed the footage. Following all five analysts obtaining the time of 1:53, the commission unanimously voted to change Secretariat's time from 1:54  2⁄5 to 1:53, which broke the then-course record of 1:53 2⁄5. Altering Secretariat's time allowed him to actively hold the course record for all three legs of the Triple Crown. The overlaying method used by the committee was reported to be accurate to 0.03 of a second. A representative of Chenery stated that they were "very pleased" with the decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    You need to take US race times with a pinch of salt (or a bit more).
    Don't forget the run up. A horse can be up to full speed before the "race" starts.

    http://www.drf.com/news/timing-everything-correctly-timing-race-more-complicated-it-looks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    Thanks,Diomed.Every day's a school day!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    The extra distance between where the starting gate is placed and the official start of the race is called the “run-up.”

    If there is not a sensor for the official start, then the operator manually starts the timer when the first horse reaches the official starting point of the race.

    the sensors that will be triggered during the running of the race are active only for approximately 20 seconds. That limits the amount of time that the sensors can be triggered by objects other than the horses in the race, such as outriders, ambulances, birds, a player’s program hanging over the rail, or even a wind-tossed umbrella (it has happened).

    For example, the run-up for a one-mile race at Santa Anita is 172 feet, according to charts; the run-up for a one-mile race at Gulfstream is only five feet; and the run-up for a race going one mile and 40 yards at Tampa Bay Downs is 24 feet.

    All timing systems disregard the run-up, whatever the distance, since it is not part of the official distance of the race.

    Teleview would time the race using the set of sensors closest to the course configuration, but the official time would not be posted until a computer calculated the estimated difference between when an actual beam was broken and when a beam at the proper location would have been broken had it been in the right place.

    Operators of beam-based systems say the overwhelming majority of timing problems occur when a sensor is blocked or is triggered by something other than a horse.

    the system rarely flags times as being unacceptable, but if it does, it means that the time is wrong, since the system is set up primarily to flag data that are “theoretically impossible,” such as a sub-20-second quarter-mile.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Diomed fantastic analysis and great read. Yourself and Tryfix are an encyclopedia of knowledge regards the flat racing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Secretariat broke the world record for 13 furlongs as he was being pulled up passing the line over 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Secretariat broke the world record for 13 furlongs as he was being pulled up passing the line over 12.

    Some freak. The commentary on that Belmont stakes win is class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    From a Century of Champions

    Secretariat 2nd highest rated of 1900-2000
    When Secretariat won the US Triple Crown in 1973, he was the first to record that feat in a quarter of a century. It was taken as one of the measures of his greatness that he had achieved what had seemed to be beyond the powers of the moden thoroughbred.

    When, in the course of the next five years, both Seattle Slew and Affirmed also became Triple Crown heroes, their performance might have served to remove a little of the gloss from Secretariat's shining image. In fact, the inevitable reappraisals produced no such result; the consensus was that Secretaria's Triple Crown retained its unique glitter, that amount all the American champions of the modern era, he reigned supreme.

    Secretariat was foaled, just after midnight on 30 March 1970, at Meadow Stud in Virginia. In the eyes of the public, both the stud and its highly-successful racing arm, Meadow Stable, had long been identified with their founder, self-made millionaire Christopher Chenery, but his health had collapsed in 1967 and the management of both ventures had been taken over by his daughter Mrs Penny Tweedy. Chenery, who had bred Secretariat's dam, Somethingroyal, and had bouht his granddam, Imperatrice, for $30,000 in 1947, never knew about his stud's greatest product, and he died between the colt's two racing seasons.

    A bright chesnut with three socks and a diamond shaped star between his eyes, the last and greatest champion son of the outstanding sire Bold Ruler epitomised all that the word 'Thoroughbred' implies. He was all power and symmetry, so much the beau ideal of his species that Charlie Hatton, the most gifted and experienced racing journalist of his day, was moved to write that 'trying to fault Secretariat's conformation was like dreaming of dry rain'.

    it is almost a rule of racing that the best-looking horses do not make the best runners. Secretariat broke it, while utilising his 15-foot stride to break records galore as well. But he did not begin with a win. On his first outing, at Aqueduct he was caught flat footed when the gate opened, then impeded when another runner cut across him;10 lengths off the lead at the quarter pole, he finished just over a length behind the winner. He had eight more starts that year and was first home every time.
    When Secretariat trounced the highly-regarded Linda's Chief in the Sanford Stakes at Saratoga on his fourth start, all New York knew he was good.

    He went on to add the Hopeful and the Futurity, both with complete authority, and treated stronger opposition muchthe same in the Champagne, only to forfeit his win on account of his jockey's wayward riding. In the Laurel Futurity and the Garden State Stakes he overwhelmed his rivals. Although it was not the done thing to name a two year old Horse of the Year, there was no option.

    Secretariat dominated his class completely at two, and so obviously threatened to repeeat the performance at three that a syndication deal put together following Christopher Chenery's death valued him at $6.08 million- an unheard of price for any horse, let alone one who had yet to prove his mettle as a three-year-old. The only way the colt could justify the price-tag was to accomplish what none had accomplished for 25 years, and en route to the Triple Crown the sceptics and cynics sat back and waited for things to go wrong.

    First time out at three, in the Bay Shore Stakes, Secretariat proved nothing he had not proved before. The company was no better in the Gotham Stakes, but there seemed a need to prove something, so he equalled the Aqueduct track record for the mile. Then came for the moment for the doubters to say 'I told you so'.

    Racing for the first time over nine furlongs in the Wood Memorial Stakes, 'Big Red' came back a well-beaten third. four lengths behind his own bran companion, Angle Light and that colt's head victim, Sham. 'He's a non stayer, like all the other Bold Rulers' the know-alls declared-and even some of Secretariat's most ardent followers feared that to be the case.

    In fact, trainer Lucien Laurin had sent the champion into the Wood ill-prepared for the test. It was neither the first nor the last time that Secretariat's human connections let him down; granted better luck in that department, he would probably have never known defeat.

    But all went spectacularly well in the Triple Crown series. Ron Turcotte did not make it easy for him in the Kentucky Derby, dropping him back to last soon after the start, then having to steer wide when it became apparent that the only clear path would be on the outside. The supposed doubtful stayer, made to run via the longest route, thought nothing of the inconvenience. He flashed home to an easy victory in track record time of 1:59.4. At the end of the century Secretariat's Kentucky Dervy remained the only one completed in less than two minutes.

    Sham and Our Native, second andthird in the Derby, filled the same positions, and by the same margins, in the Preakness. The only differences were that Secretariat led much earlier in the Pimlico contest, and that this time was not credited with a track record. He set one, as every timing device bar one confirmed, but the exception was the official apparatus, and Pimlico declined to correct its obvious error.

    No matter. In the Belmont, Secretariat not only lowered the 12-furlong track record by more than two seconds, but was also clocked inside the world record for 13 furlongs while Turcotte tried to pull him up. This was acknowledged as the greatest performance in any classic race, with Secretariat first disposing of Sham in a furious battle at top sprinting pace, then opening out for a winning margin of 31 lengths. It is hard to conceive how any horse in history could have lived with him, at any distance, on that magic afternoon of 9 June 1973.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I am the cut and paste king. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Hah????????????
    No matter. In the Belmont, Secretariat not only lowered the 12-furlong track record by more than two seconds, but was also clocked inside the world record for 13 furlongs while Turcotte tried to pull him up. 
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This HAS to be bullcrap. So, they've got a clock on the '1 furlong after the winning post' mark have they?? A horse who slows to a slow canter after the 12 f pole (cos it's the finishing line) breaks the 13 f World Record?? Is there even a 13f World Record? Well, I guess there is and I must go and watch the final again but this bit I cannot believe. No horse will go at anywhere near race pace for a full furlong after the line. [/font]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Unfortunately the camera doesn't follow him and I have to admit he was still going some lick at the line, but I also have to stick with the above post. Surely almost impossible to do what is claimed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭tryfix


    diomed wrote: »
    the system rarely flags times as being unacceptable, but if it does, it means that the time is wrong, since the system is set up primarily to flag data that are “theoretically impossible,” such as a sub-20-second quarter-mile.
    By quarter mile I assume that it's the first quarter mile that's being talked about.


    Seeing as we're on a thread about incredible feats, it would be good to know if I imagined it or if in fact Michael Stoute's Shaadi did actually run two sub 10 second furlongs in the 1989 Irish 2,000 Guineas?

    I seem to remember reading about it in Pacemaker-Update or some other magazine at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    February 2017

    The official time of the $12 million Pegasus World Cup Invitational Stakes (G1) has been lowered to 1:46.83, giving winner Arrogate the 1 1/8-mile dirt track record at Gulfstream Park.

    The initially reported final time of 1:47.61 attracted scrutiny after the inaugural running of the world's richest race Jan. 28. Clocker Bruno DeJulio said after watching Juddmonte Farm's son of Unbridled's Song beat a field of five other grade/group 1 winners by 4 3/4 lengths, the final time seemed slow.

    DeJulio clocked the race off of replays and got times between 1:46.87 and 1:46.90. He took his concerns to Craig Milkowski, who oversees TimeFormUS speed figures. Milkowski then conducted his own review of the race and landed on the time of 1:46.87, which matches one of DeJulio's three times and is close to the others. After additional review, Milkowski landed on 1:46.53 as the final time for the Pegasus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    The first years of the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe winning times

    Year Time
    1920 2:39.0
    1921 2:34.8
    1922 2:38.8
    1923 2:38.2
    1924 2:40.8
    1925 2:33.8
    1926 2:32.8
    1927 2:32.8
    1928 2:38.8
    1929 2:42.8
    1930 2:44.8
    1931 2:38.8

    Notice anything unusual about the race times?
    If you don't read them out loud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Off topic but worthy of a link, Arkles remarkable 1965 Gallagher Gold Cup, took 17 seconds off the Sandown course record doing a piece of work. I love the way he lights himself up coming to the pond fence on both citcuits and Taaffe struggling to retstrain him at the start of the second circuit.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tamkrqCAegs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Shemale wrote: »
    Off topic but worthy of a link, Arkles remarkable 1965 Gallagher Gold Cup, took 17 seconds off the Sandown course record doing a piece of work. I love the way he lights himself up coming to the pond fence on both citcuits and Taaffe struggling to retstrain him at the start of the second circuit.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tamkrqCAegs
    You never need an excuse to embed that video. What a beautiful horse. The stats are amazing and yet don't do him justice. I could watch that clip all day long. And as Peter O Sullevan says at the end...... "Will ANYONE see his like again?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Itziger wrote: »
    You never need an excuse to embed that video. What a beautiful horse. The stats are amazing and yet don't do him justice. I could watch that clip all day long. And as Peter O Sullevan says at the end...... "Will ANYONE see his like again?"

    Giving Millhouse 17lbs and obliterating the course record, pity he was before my time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    from "My Racing Life" by Tommy Weston (1952)
    ... Citation, it may be remembered that although he won twenty-eight out of his first thirty races, it was not until Noor beat him decisively on three occasions that the Americans ceased to refer to Citation as the champion of the world. Our friends across the Atlantic are very fond of making similar claims for most of their champions ..."
    "I rode Noor to finish third in the Derby of 1948 ... I always thought he would make a great four-year-old ..."


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