soundproofing

shenno

i live beside a very busy road in dublin. there is a lot of road traffic and the noise is driving me crazy. im trying to soundproof my bed room. 1 wall of my bedroom faces the road and it has a window. earlier this year i had another window built beside it to try and reduce the noise coming through. it has slightly helped. does anyone one know any shops i could go to buy soundproofing equipment.? at this stage im looking for alternatives. im thinking about building a shelter in my back garden i could sleep in. however the noise still comes into my garden pretty loud. ive also considered buying a caravan to live in close to my house to sleep in however i dont think its legal. im desperate and will try anything as the sound is ruining my life any ideas?

eoinzy2000

High quality ear plugs

Calahonda52

Noise cancelling earphones: eg bose at 300 euro a pop but they are awesome
https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/headphones/earphones/quietcontrol-30.html#v=qc30_black

I have the wired ones, which can be used without any need to be plugged into a device.

shenno

I have tried this but I can't sleep with them and can't wear them all the time.

Dudda

Its going to be a mixture of a lot of items which will each reduce the noise:
If you have a bit of a garden thick evergreen shrubs help.
Sealing is critical. Any hole will let in sound so seal around all windows and doors.
Noise can come in through the roof. Is it single storey or are you near the roof? Additional fibreglass will help.
Getting onto more expensive measures you can dryline the external wall. The inner wall can be freestanding not fixed to the external and the separation will help prevent transfer.
Could suggest other ideas but not sure what type of house you have.

Calahonda52

Dudda wrote: »

Could suggest other ideas but not sure what type of house you have.

Also not clear if the OP is renting...
Its not an easy problem to solve, cheaply, if at all

Dudda

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Also not clear if the OP is renting...
Its not an easy problem to solve, cheaply, if at all

It can be very difficult and expensive but this would indicate he owns the property which is a start:

shenno wrote: »

....earlier this year i had another window built beside it to try and reduce the noise coming through. it has slightly helped....

eoinzy2000

Im a little bit confused. You built another window, another weak point in an attempt to fix noise issues? Acoustic insulation is based in a large way on density. I wouldve thought providing an additional ope is counterproductive. I would be more inclined to close up all windows and provide high quality acoustic insulation around room envelope.

Dudda

eoinzy2000 wrote: »

Im a little bit confused. You built another window, another weak point in an attempt to fix noise issues? Acoustic insulation is based in a large way on density. I wouldve thought providing an additional ope is counterproductive. I would be more inclined to close up all windows and provide high quality acoustic insulation around room envelope.

I presumed it was a window inside a window. This is often done on old houses where you'd have single glazing sliding sash windows externally which you're not allowed touch so you build another window inside it which provides thermal and acoustic performance. We did something similar on a church conversion to avoid having to modify the original stained glass.

eoinzy2000

Ah. Duh. That would make sense....

shenno

i own the property. there was already a window there and i had another one put in. my bedroom is on the second floor and the beside the roof . does anyone know where i can get sound proofing equipment? ive been to a few hardwares but they have nothing

eoinzy2000

egg shell foam or modern acoustic board like they use in recording studios would be the job probably. http://www.noisestopsystems.co.uk/studio-soundproofing

shenno

any shops in dublin?

robd

https://www.goodwins.ie/products/id-207.html?name=plasterboard&type=simple&

johnebhoy99

Have you considered secondary glazing on the windows?

shane6977

Can you give a bit more info about the property?

What year was it built, is a period house or protected structure, what is the external finish?

As someone pointed out in an earlier post, soundproofing comes down to the density of the materials and minimising air paths. You can either tackle it internally or externally but really need to know more about tge house in order to give suggestions.

Deflection also comes into play, so if you have the space to plant dense evergreen hedging this will help.

shenno

how effective is secondary glazing .?

the front of my house is facing a busy road. there is a garden about 18 feet between my house and the road. my bedroom is facing the road aswell at the front of the house. i was thinking of soundproofing the window but it might not be enough and i might have to sound proof the whole wall. im on the second floor of a two storey house so sound might be coming in from the roof aswell. i can post a photo of my room if anyone wants to see it.

kevmoroney

I lined a concrete party wall in my place with Mustwall 33B over the last week. A neighbour has a TV mounted on the other side of the wall which we could hear clearly. It's a reasonably easy installation if you are happy doing some DIY and ok doing a skimcoat of plaster. It definitely made a good reduction in the noise levels. I ordered it from soundinsulation.ie

mosii

Hi,anybody know if its possible to buy loaded mass vinyl in Ireland,Builders providers dont have it,thanks

Yellow_Fern

Do any of the experts here know is the current soundproofing regulations for party walls? Is blocks on flat enough or do they have to rendered? is fibre glass required?

BryanF

https://www.housing.gov.ie/housing/building-standards/tgd-part-e-sound/technical-guidance-document-e-sound

imp1

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

Do any of the experts here know is the current soundproofing regulations for party walls? Is blocks on flat enough or do they have to rendered? is fibre glass required?

The Building Regs have a variety of party walls, which if built properly, will pass the requirements of Part E, 'Block on the flat, plastered both sides with 13mm sand and cement' is wall type 1A, and should pass the test. This construction is very popular and it is easy for a builder to understand. Other constructions with un-plastered blocks, but dry lined, should pass, but as they are slightly more complex, which can give rise to problems.

It is worth pointing out that just because a wall passes, this does not mean you will never hear anything through it.

imp1

mosii wrote: »

Hi,anybody know if its possible to buy loaded mass vinyl in Ireland,Builders providers dont have it,thanks

There are a few suppliers of mass loaded vinyl in Ireland, generally acoustic material specialists, rather than Builders Providers

Yellow_Fern

imp1 wrote: »

The Building Regs have a variety of party walls, which if built properly, will pass the requirements of Part E, 'Block on the flat, plastered both sides with 13mm sand and cement' is wall type 1A, and should pass the test. This construction is very popular and it is easy for a builder to understand. Other constructions with un-plastered blocks, but dry lined, should pass, but as they are slightly more complex, which can give rise to problems.

It is worth pointing out that just because a wall passes, this does not mean you will never hear anything through it.

I really appreciate it. I have encountered a case of a sand and cement on block on flat wall with fibreglass fitted behind metal studs but seeming only fibreglass in upper floors. I was trying to get my head around it but maybe its for fire not sound.

McOptimist

johnebhoy99 wrote: »

Have you considered secondary glazing on the windows?

Laminated glass would also be something you could look into to reduce noise https://bettersoundproofing.com/does-laminated-glass-reduce-noise/